exercise and ganj.

[daima]

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dai*ma

[daves19]

That's a great argument for cannabis over tobacco, but it avoids the question that was initially asked.

Look over in the lounge for a more balanced pro-cannabis post from beachguyinthongs. He quotes more complete findings.

I have to say that anyone who has to be convinced that inhaling smoke is more stressful on the lungs than not inhaling smoke either has never smoked anything themselves, or... Be well. Go forth and spread ignorance veiled as propaganda veiled as insight.

...and my lungs are just fine thank you. I vaporize.

No that is a great argument on cannabinoid being a + over bad health condition...So the question was answered...if you exercise and blaze you will get no harm from blazing, truely, i've tested over a period of 5 years now...My health is my number one concern, why am i smoking? It changes nothing to it's condition...It doesn't enhance it, it just changes nothing as long as you keep on moving, exercising, taking "shower of steam", walking outdoors...So don't get upset upon people when they post something that is maybe not true, instead pull out some facts (please not something in a newspaper) from your personnal live and we will listen to you...If you start arguing with argument that has no foundation, then just don't say nothing and listen to others...

Peace out :dance:

[vincevaper]

propaganda is propaganda not matter what?

Well, yes... by definition. Your lack of capacity for objectivity exhibited by this question says it all.

[daima]

you raise two kids and get back to me on what capacites i may or may not have, and then tell me once again the depths of my objectivity.
I would suggest to you that if your arent going to use that space that lies beneath your face that you should find something else to do with it besides allowing other to post their ideas on it. ya dig?

dai*ma :stoned:
Hey lil,buddy
dont get angry
oh god, please at least not at me
you know that i am right behind you all the way ol'compadre
you just say what ever you want too and i'll agree

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A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.

We now take you back to you being regularly programed. Imean regular programing...i mean regular program. And remember....only users lose drugs.

[daves19]

Well, yes... by definition. Your lack of capacity for objectivity exhibited by this question says it all.

off subject...remember, and like you said before, the question is "is weed going to slow me down or stop me" regarding his fitness programm...

stop bashing on someone's credibility, you are proving nothing there and it doesn't help the guy at the top of the thread...if you need to let the stress out there is the politic forum! but for now, i think daima proved soemhow that smoking and exercising can go along together...i've proved it to myself too...So please bring facts, and if you don't have some you don't need to try to have one!

Peace out :dance:

[vincevaper]

Precisely how was my earlier post "off subject?"

You and DAIMA with your selective quoting. Hey, let me give it a try!
"I use a waterbong which helps a little, but i know it isnt candycanes and lollipops that im putting in my lungs."

I'm guessing that if either of you had anything of importance to say you'd be better at debating your points and less ready to vomit out insults. I'm only exposing the lack of substance. You do well enough bashing your own credibility.

[vincevaper]

Ponder these questions:

- When you suggest using a "shower of steam," what effect or symptom from smoking is intentionally being countered?

- Why is it that many patients of medicinal cannabis choose vaporizers and claim an inability to manage smoke inhalation?

Now for the requested personal story (so unecessary, but you asked):
When recently I returned to cannabis, I used a friends bong. After a couple of months I did notice that my chest felt heavier, I had phlegm at the back of my throat and occasionally coughed in the mornings. It was definitely attributable to my smoking. I looked into vaporizers and settled on a low-tech introductory method with the idea that I would eventually go high-tech if it was satisfactory. This resulted in elimination of all symptoms mentioned above. I also have been lifting weights for many years.

I still do smoke on the odd occasion as it can be fun and more sociable. But for my regular partaking there is no other choice after discovering the benefits of vaporizing (health and conservation of weed). Certainly, if I were an athlete I would never consider smoking as an option when there is such a happy alternative.

I can't vouch for his sources, but here are some quotes from beachguy's myths post (under "fact") in the lounge:

"Frequent marijuana smokers experience adverse respiratory symptoms from smoking, including chronic cough, chronic phlegm, and wheezing. However, the only prospective clinical study shows no increased risk of crippling pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema)."

"There are no epidemiological or aggregate clinical data suggesting that marijuana-only smokers develop lung cancer. However, since some bronchial cell changes appear to be pre-cancerous, an increased risk of cancer among frequent marijuana smokers is possible."

There are good aspects and bad aspects like many things in life, which little DAIMA will learn as she grows up. The bad aspects are not necessarily horrible or cause for great alarm, but they are there and should be acknowledged in any honest discussion. That's something you would do well to remember, David, as you gather your coalition of dumb pot smokers. Class dismissed.

[thcbongman]

ive recently started working out alot more.

i smoke probably 3 or 4 bowls a day.

so far i havent noticed any extreme shortness of breath or anything extreme, but if i continue working out at this pace, is weed going to slow me down or stop me? I use a waterbong which helps a little, but i know it isnt candycanes and lollipops that im putting in my lungs. do you think itll become an issue?

No.

I smoke 2 packs of cigs a day and it doesn't really bother me. If jacks don't stop me, ganja surely won't stop you.

You will eventually get diminishing returns working out at your pace, but just switch up your routine. But at the end of the day, ganja helps replenish your body.

[thcbongman]

Precisely how was my earlier post "off subject?"

You and DAIMA with your selective quoting. Hey, let me give it a try!
"I use a waterbong which helps a little, but i know it isnt candycanes and lollipops that im putting in my lungs."

I'm guessing that if either of you had anything of importance to say you'd be better at debating your points and less ready to vomit out insults. I'm only exposing the lack of substance. You do well enough bashing your own credibility.

It's real off subject.

He asked those that exercise whether ganja slows your down. It doesn't necessarily have to be by lungs, but by amotivation. When you stated I have no expertise on the subject isn't that an admission of lack of creditibility?

Everyone knows that anything smoked can damage your lungs

We heard all the "facts" before. But guess what? Experience overrides facts in context of the question he asks.

It doesn't take a moron to see your an anagonist.

[vincevaper]

THCBONGMAN...

It's only once in a while that you use PCP, right?