Salvia rumour

[RedRainDrop]

Well im not so sure if its a rumour or not, but ive heard a few times that salvia releases chemicals in your brain which only get released while your dying. This seems very strange, because if its true, mabye it causes us to see the spirtual world? I've also heard over a hundred times "mushrooms make your brain bleed" I know this one can't be true, but my question is do you think highly hallucinagenic drugs put us so over the edge, we are entering a different world, or reality, and that reality can't be reached unless you die?

Mabye why thats why they are so pleasurable, we get to see something others have to wait till they die to see..

Just a thought, elaborate.

RedRainDrop Reviewed by RedRainDrop on 12-06-2005. Salvia rumour Well im not so sure if its a rumour or not, but ive heard a few times that salvia releases chemicals in your brain which only get released while your dying. This seems very strange, because if its true, mabye it causes us to see the spirtual world? I've also heard over a hundred times "mushrooms make your brain bleed" I know this one can't be true, but my question is do you think highly hallucinagenic drugs put us so over the edge, we are entering a different world, or reality, and that reality Rating: 5

[CocaCola]

That could be said about alot of substances though. DMT and Ketamine for example. In my opinion, this rumor is more suited to those drugs then Salvia... as Salvia is jsut over the top ridiculous. It's more like you enter the realm of Loki the God of Mischief!

[klarrix]

This is my spin:

With anything we do in life that gives us an experience or pleasure- ANYTHING- the pleasure or experience we percieve is only truly felt inside our minds (you could argue things like cutting yourself or sex you are physical, but when you think about it we only know what's happening because of how our brain interprets it). If you take a substance that changes your mind itself then absolutely anything in life that you perceive to happen should be blamed on the drug, as it's your perception that has been altered. If something gives you a mindfuck when you take it, then it's probably down to alkaloids/cannaboids, not spiritual powers.

Obviously, your question couldnt be answered for sure without me actually dying so it's open to speculation- imo saying it has further effects that we can't perceive (magic, extra dimensional etc) is just human nature and people have been saying that sort of shit about drugs for thousands of years.

[CocaCola]

Yes, but DMT is produced in small amounts in the brain and if it is released into your body when you die, as theory suggests... then it could be held accountable for whatever out of body, or afterlife experiences we have when we're about to die.

And Ketamine, allows you to go to the brink of unconsiousness without actually slipping into it. Some would compare that to the "Mental Realm" of religious and/or spiritual teachings. But like I said, it's all theory.

[klarrix]

I get it now, the way RRD explained it made me think he was asking whether they give you 'real' extra dimensional experiences :P

As for the semi-conciousness stuff, try meditation for an hour straight without stopping- THAT is a weird experience

[CocaCola]

I have believe it or not. My mom is heavy into Meditation and my uncle is a kung-fu master and works with Kirpal Singh (I can't spell his name) closely.

[187]

Yes, but DMT is produced in small amounts in the brain and if it is released into your body when you die, as theory suggests... then it could be held accountable for whatever out of body, or afterlife experiences we have when we're about to die.

And Ketamine, allows you to go to the brink of unconsiousness without actually slipping into it. Some would compare that to the "Mental Realm" of religious and/or spiritual teachings. But like I said, it's all theory.

how could dmt effect you if your brain is dead?

[klarrix]

I have believe it or not. My mom is heavy into Meditation and my uncle is a kung-fu master and works with Kirpal Singh (I can't spell his name) closely.

<3 your family, that's awesome man

[CocaCola]

how could dmt effect you if your brain is dead?

No, it happens before you die... As to what happens if you insantly die, well... that can't answer that. That's why it's just a theory.

[syrrus]

Ummm....that sounds like a load of crap. From what ive come to understand salvinorin a is a powerful seretonal inhibitor and hallucinagenic replacement. Science barely knows anything about the drug and has no idea how it affects the brain. They do know that it leaves no lasting affect after it's use besides the profound memory of it's effects. If you hear anything about how salvia works, just be safe and don't believe it because there isn't much research going on about the plant at all short of growers trying to increase potency. Just do your research, like I know this kid that keeps on telling people that the reason that you trip out on LSD is because your brain bleeds and the pressure of the bleeding causes hallucinations. See modern american drug culture is full of 90% bullshit.