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	12-09-2005, 08:04 AM #31 Senior Member Senior Member
 asking a woman out the right wayhypothetically, I could not date a pussy because men are so much more interesting with an opinion and a spine. 
 
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	12-09-2005, 08:08 AM #32 Senior Member Senior Member
 asking a woman out the right wayso why where you arguing with what the first guy said? you proved his point totally  ? ?
 
 correct me if im wrong
 
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	12-09-2005, 08:10 AM #33 Senior Member Senior Member
 asking a woman out the right wayif advice had been.. 
 
 be honest
 grow a spine
 be interesting
 
 that would be ok
 advice was
 manipulate her
 don't commit
 keep her guessing about you
 
 that's kind of fucked up to me.
 
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	12-11-2005, 09:32 AM #34 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 asking a woman out the right wayActing, which is the fine art of camouflaging through confusion, is her favorite ploy. She could teach the cameleon a trick or two!!!( I mean that with a sense of humor/banter). 
 
 Men were not born with the ability to conceal their true "honest and open" feelings for a woman. Women on the other hand can change their feelings from one moment to the next. Listen Physcology students this means she can be Joan of arc one moment and Julia Roberts the next, without batting those long eyelashes!!!
 
 The key is to read her ACTIONs toward you and under no circumstances take "changing colors" personally.
 
 Handling each interaction with a woman during dating by testing through challenge makes her reveal her true feelings toward you. She will use less "womanese" the more she starts to like you. In other words she will make it more easy for you to interact with her. Im not saying that womanese is a constant second language,nor is it a bad thing, but it is used the most in the initial stages of dating.
 
 I have had at least 50 women tell me that if I wait 5-9 days to call she would not like that and would tell me something to the effect, "Next time you get a womans phone number you shouldnt wait so long to call her, GOODBYE." That is the response when you ask them however. The reality factor says otherwise.
 
 Gents this is our litmus test. It forces women to reveal their feelings toward you early. I say if you call on day 7 and she says, "Dave who" she wasnt interested in the first place. Just say, "I must have the wrong number goodbye" Throw the number in the nearest trash can. Wasnt that easy? But that wont happen if you do the right thing from the start.
 
 YOu know what? Dont let your ego think she will forget about you in 5-9 days if she likes you. This is another situation where self-control is very important. Now if you do what I told you and the very minute you ask for the phone number you assess her body language by TONE OF VOICE, INFLECTION OF VOICE AND HER ENTHUSIAM toward you, you will KNOW where you stand. If all of these are a go and you wait 5-9 days to call she will not forget you trust me, she will anticipate, she will wonder, and sensing why no other guy has done this to her before will raise her INTEREST LEVEL. That is what you both want isnt it?
 
 Certainly if you wait past 9 days it is rude and she has the right to decline.Understandably so. If you call within two days in her eyes you are predictable and hungry therefore boring. This is not about manipulating women at all. Im fair to both sides and you know that.
 
 Let me test your knowledge guys?
 
 Its the third date. Shes steppin up the tests for you. Are you ready?
 
 She asks to borrow 5 bucks on Friday she says, "I'll pay you back on Monday".
 You see her on Monday and she doesnt bring up the subject. (trust me she hasnt forgot).
 Tuesday comes and she still doesnt bring it up. Your thinking, "well its just 5 bucks no big deal". It is a big deal guys. What is she testing?
 
 She didnt need the money in the first place. She was testing your ATTITUDE TOWARD MONEY and YOUR ABILITY TO KEEP A COMMITTMENT.
 
 What do you say? PLAYFULLY BRING IT UP at the committment time preferably and have some fun with it. Dont be mean about it. Just the fact that you called her on it is the important thing.
 
 I wont acuse any women that testing is manipulation because its not, I know that. Its her way of finding out what your values are, the limits of those values and who you are as a man without asking it directly. Its not wrong. Dont take it that way. Just be aware of testing ahead of time.
 
 Many guys dont understand women, I personally think that this leads to frustrastion because men dont understand simple concepts like testing and womanese which leads to anger and it should never be that way. Learning these things are not unmanly they are crucial to relating with women.
 
 I Love women and want to see you guys love them also in a way in which your both happy.
 
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	12-11-2005, 09:38 AM #35 Senior Member Senior Member
 asking a woman out the right waylmao, ur a fukn idiot dude. just gotta be cool n eventually there will be a point where both of u wanna fukk. if for commitment stick with it. ur overthinking all this way too much. we're all animals that wanna fukk, thats it, ur letting the worst of ur brain get the best of you, dumbass. 
 
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