Quote Originally Posted by mightymarijuanabuds
for example, i completely agree with the buddhist philosophy of drugs /emotions clouding our sight from the true self, on the other hand, i believe that certain natural substances like the herb, salvia, mushrooms, all can have very beneficial effects on meditation as a whole... after i did mushrooms a couple times, my meditation became much more profound, without any substances, and without attempting actual 'meditation' during the mushroom experience
Perfect, since we all seem to be discussing almost exactly the same thing anyways, let me say this:

I fully agree with you about drugs as beneficial to meditation. Even "sober" meditation gains something from the mind opening they can provide.

The use of drugs clouds our ability to see our true self only as much as we identify that true self with the body in which the chemical changes brought about by drugs take place...

Whether illusion, or altered illusion... still illusion.


ps~ Jedi's rule :thumbsup: