What religion-spirituality are you?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

death is an illusion, a joke.

actually more of a punchline than a joke, but a joke never the less, mroe liek a one liner...


death does not exist, you do not die. you give up, and leave the body due to intolerable circumstances:
too much pain, you cannot tolerate the misery, you give up.
when life becomes "too much" death occurs.

lol im too tolerant given how intolerant i am :P

[Oneironaut]

I am a secular humanist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

Secular humanism is that branch of philosophy that advocates the use of reason, compassion, scientific inquiry, ethics, justice and a presumption of equality within a worldview centered upon human beings. The term was originally coined in the 20th century to make a clear distinction from "Christian humanism". A perhaps less confrontational synonym is scientific humanism, which the biologist Edward O. Wilson termed "the only world-view compatible with science's growing knowledge of the real world and the laws of nature".

Secular humanism is distinguished from the broader category of humanism in that the secular humanist prefers free inquiry over dogmatic wisdom—upholding the scientific method for inquiry, while rejecting revealed knowledge and theistic morality, though not necessarily faith. Secular humanism has appeal to atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, objectivists, rationalists, skeptics and materialists, as well as to some Buddhists and Confucians.

Its basic tenets may be simplified as:
* Humans have value and can solve human problems;
* Science, free speech, rational thought, democracy, and freedom in the arts go together;
* There is nothing supernatural.

[magnusalex]

im a new age shaman of a ufology path of spirituality but still believe in most or all religions, including jesus. He did once say the kingdom of god is in us all and he didnt write the bible, was anti religion and a rebel. basically, like the new age protestors of today, only he had more clowt.

[magnusalex]

I am a secular humanist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

Secular humanism is that branch of philosophy that advocates the use of reason, compassion, scientific inquiry, ethics, justice and a presumption of equality within a worldview centered upon human beings. The term was originally coined in the 20th century to make a clear distinction from "Christian humanism". A perhaps less confrontational synonym is scientific humanism, which the biologist Edward O. Wilson termed "the only world-view compatible with science's growing knowledge of the real world and the laws of nature".

Secular humanism is distinguished from the broader category of humanism in that the secular humanist prefers free inquiry over dogmatic wisdomâ??upholding the scientific method for inquiry, while rejecting revealed knowledge and theistic morality, though not necessarily faith. Secular humanism has appeal to atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, objectivists, rationalists, skeptics and materialists, as well as to some Buddhists and Confucians.

Its basic tenets may be simplified as:
* Humans have value and can solve human problems;
* Science, free speech, rational thought, democracy, and freedom in the arts go together;
* There is nothing supernatural.

science and the laws of nature dont apply to the supernatural activities or abilities of people and life forms, becuase they are not of the natural world, or physical one. Thoughts do not exist on a physical level but we all know they exist, why then do people try to say the supernatural does not exist because they havent been able to pinpoint, document, and catalogue physical properties of supernatural experiences, abilities, etc, or occurrences of the supernatural.
all religions and paths of spirituality said the gods, god, or humanity originated from the sky, and the size of the universe has proven this is possible. UFO's have been recorded throughout all of pre history (and recorded history) on earth, so yes science is catching up with the supernatural, slowly though.

[magnusalex]

methinks you should stand back and not make an illogical attack on mr. devious. He thinks on a higher level than you do, because he is able to distinguish between what is known as fact and what is an opinion. Your brain i can presume is just a jumble of ideas. tell me, how do you distinguish between scientific fact and religious belief? you don't. and that is what makes your process of thinking less reliable and illogical.

there is no truth if there is no false.

known fact and opinions of society are the same, they cannot be taken as the truth unless experienced by the self. people lie, so many so called factual events of society were in fact lies.

[Oneironaut]

science and the laws of nature dont apply to the supernatural activities or abilities of people and life forms, becuase they are not of the natural world, or physical one.

Which is, actually, the only world I have any evidence of.

Thoughts do not exist on a physical level but we all know they exist,

Wrong. We do have concrete, physical evidence that thoughts exist. It is a well known fact that the brain is composed of trillions of neurons, and we can look at the patterns of the neurons and the blood flow and such in the brain to discern what parts of the brain are involved in what kinds of cognitive tasks. This suggests that thought has a very real physical basis, in the brain. If there really was a "soul" out there that was controlling all our thoughts, it wouldn't need a brain to do all the work for it. And if it really was controlling our thoughts, there ought to be some evidence of that. At some point, the supernatural world of the soul has to interact with the physical world of our body in such a way that is not predictable by the laws of physics. However, everything we observe does follow the laws of physics. If there is a supernatural world, we have no evidence of it interacting with ours, and if it doesn't interact with ours, what's the use in even talking about it? It has no effect whatsoever on our universe.

why then do people try to say the supernatural does not exist because they havent been able to pinpoint, document, and catalogue physical properties of supernatural experiences, abilities, etc, or occurrences of the supernatural.

Because if there was conclusive evidence of the "supernatural", it wouldn't be supernatural to begin with. It would be natural, that is to say, part of the understandable, observable universe. If you have some conclusive evidence I've overlooked that there really is a soul world out there, please do share it with me. But don't pretend it's "supernatural" if you claim to have evidence of it and claim to understand how it works within the framework of the universe. Because then it's no more supernatural than radio waves or quantum mechanics.

If the supernatural world really does interact with our physical universe on a daily basis, as every person who believes in it will attest, why is it so notoriously difficult to find the slightest shred of evidence? Six billion people having so many spiritual connections would surely be able to come up with a fair number of instances in which the known laws of physics do not seem to apply. But the only evidence I see is parlor tricks like bending spoons and cold reading that any stage magician could easily do. Please, enlighten me with the body of evidence which convinced you that this is beyond a doubt the way the universe works. If you can't bring up any real evidence, how can I believe your extraordinary claims?

all religions and paths of spirituality said the gods, god, or humanity originated from the sky, and the size of the universe has proven this is possible. UFO's have been recorded throughout all of pre history (and recorded history) on earth, so yes science is catching up with the supernatural, slowly though.

It would be rather strange if people never saw things in the sky, don't you think? There's all sorts of junk up there: comets, meteors, stars, planets, clouds, birds, and now airplanes, satellites, blimps, and all of this is subject to the wacky effects that our atmosphere has to light under certain conditions. It's no wonder people report seeing unfamiliar things in the sky. But I don't get how you draw from these reports the conclusion that they can only be explained by life evolving on some planet, then evolving consciousness, then evolving technology without wiping itself out, then becoming a spacefaring civilization, and travelling the immense interstellar distances to a little planet we know as Earth. That just sounds a little far-fetched, if you ask me, and I would like to see some really conclusive evidence before I jump to that conclusion. As Carl Sagan put it, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

[beachguy in thongs]

Okay, I have to run, but with a smile on my face.

Something to ponder...is it the thoughts we're recording or the thought process, being captured and utilized by the brain, that we're recording?

[Oneironaut]

why then do people try to say the supernatural does not exist because they havent been able to pinpoint, document, and catalogue physical properties of supernatural experiences, abilities, etc, or occurrences of the supernatural.

Perhaps you might see the faulty logic of this statement if I replace the word "supernatural" with "unicorn":

why then do people try to say the unicorn does not exist because they havent been able to pinpoint, document, and catalogue physical properties of unicorn experiences, abilities, etc, or occurrences of the unicorn.

[Euphoric]

I'm a hybrid

*satanist
*wiccan
*new age (celestine)
*shaman

i love studying magecraft and enchanting also.

[beachguy in thongs]

Perhaps you might see the faulty logic of this statement if I replace the word "supernatural" with "unicorn":

Now replace the word you with God.

Perhaps God might see...

Better yet, replace beachguy with a unicorn.

Unicorn in thongs