Ok look fine "force" is a stong word. But hows push. You push your idea. Its not as threating and it does not mean the same as to force. Anyways I didn't say you were changing my mind cuz once again I will say this I do not have everything set in my mind yet. I am still unsure what to believe. This is kidda one of the reasons I ask a lot a questions and at times it tends to get out of hand and this it comes off as I'm mad when I really am not...I also tend to say certin words I shouldn't. Anyways, all I was trying to say to you was that you can not disprove anothers idea because is does not go with your idea. You can say something like "well I believe" but when you say something like "I'm telling it as it is" it makes it seem like you show no respect to anothers beliefs and while the truth is no one knows if their beliefs are truly right.