hanging yourself while high?

[MudFu]

Well, I did say I wouldn't see them in my lifetime... Anyways, It's only natural to feel some kidda sarrow when a loved one goes (death or otherwise).

[sugarmagnolia]

well stoner wolf, it appears that you are really attacking those that have no belief in the afterlife. You fail to respect are belief in this and you don't really understand what we are talking about because of this.

so listen: not everyone has your strange viewpoints and belief in the afterlife. and stop preaching saying that what you think is the truth. Even if you strongly believe it, we don't and we will not accept this as the truth, or even as a reasonable response to what we are typing.

[klarrix]

I was having similar thoughts to Openmind the other day: what is it about dying that's inherently wrong? I'm not posting to be a dick, I'd like a genuine answer to the question.

And in my opinion, claiming 'the grief it'll cause your family/friends is enough to make it immoral' is bunk- it should be your decision to die if you want to do it, and surely the sadness it causes others is easily outweighed by the sadness you're already feeling (or at least i'd assume so if you're feeling tormented enough to overcome the instinct to survive).

While you can enjoy life, for every up there seems to be a down making living seem more 'neutral' than anything 'good'. Why would being dead be any better or worse? Dying seems like just another stage to go through in life.

I believe that the main thing keeping me alive at the moment is the survival instinct we all have. The only thing that makes people shocked that Openmind wants to die is this subconcious-but irrational-feeling that death is a terrible thing. The only reason we have this instinct is evolution, which doesn't make the instinct a 'good' thing in itself, it's just the logical way to be if we want to reproduce (people without the instinct would happily go for a painless death).


Beyond that, my advice for you (Openmind) is to take out 10 minutes of your time to give this
a look. It's NOT like other preachy ideologies that tell you what is evil and good- it's completely hedonistic (built around pleasure rather than worship) and is totally built on logic. Just give it a glance before you make any final decisions

[sugarmagnolia]

ur ideas aren't built on logic. The quest to live and survive is the logical idea. It's illogical to kill yourself claiming that it is just part of nature. Do you see animals killing themselves? It's illogical to kill yourself because you believe in an after-life. Taking chances with pure ignorance is not logical.

[SativaTrip]

:rasta: There is one good reason not to kill yourself...and no it's not herb but you can have all the herb you want with this reason.......
The best reason ever not to kill yourself, (unless in prison forever)......IS that instead......you should really just do WHATEVER YOU WANT...and then if you die while doing it or after doing it then well shit, and don't hurt anyone else for fucks sake.....but hey if your going to die and the reason you want to die is the Cycle that i understand sooooo well
so fuck it just do what you want.....tell everyone to fuck offf...literally.....walk down the road and keep going till you get somewhere...hell walk till you fall over and die...that's not suicide...that is will which i think the pro-suicide desire so much.......
If you have the will to kill yourself then you have the will to do anything that you damn well want.....balls works both ways motherfuckers aye aye aye
:dance: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:
So if your going to kill yourself to be in control of the dregs then don't you want to do shit before you die and at least be doing something you want to be doing when you do die.......as for life........read shit about m-theory and new physics shit and you will now that no one knows anything and it will all be a big fuckin surprise anyway which is EXACTLY why i say fuck it!!! JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT !!!!(except for kill yourself)_and goto CaptainPappyLand.com and maybe you will have something to laugh about.
hell that theory is the reason "Captain Pappy" exists so blam blam blam :rasta:

[klarrix]

ur ideas aren't built on logic. The quest to live and survive is the logical idea. It's illogical to kill yourself claiming that it is just part of nature. Do you see animals killing themselves? It's illogical to kill yourself because you believe in an after-life. Taking chances with pure ignorance is not logical.

That's because if there were ever animals who did that, they'd be dead by now so we wouldn't see them around- it's called evolution. The only reason other creatures don't do it is because if those that didn't would have died and would not reproduce- just because we've evolved not to doesn't make it 'wrong' or 'immoral', it just proves it a bad path to take if you want to continue your species. You haven't given me any real reasons why it's wrong, just connotations. Can anyone give a fact (rather than opinion) to prove to me why dying is wrong?

[klarrix]

Oh, and I never claimed it was a 'natural' thing to do, I just stated that in the long-term there's no reason to consider it an immoral thing to do; there's no actual reason for it being considered a bad thing, we're just shocked by the idea.

JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT !!!!(except for kill yourself)

But what if you WANT to kill yourself? Why would that actually be a bad thing? Aren't you contradicting the idea of hedonism by denying suicidal people the right to do exactly what they want?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

well stoner wolf, it appears that you are really attacking those that have no belief in the afterlife. You fail to respect are belief in this and you don't really understand what we are talking about because of this.

so listen: not everyone has your strange viewpoints and belief in the afterlife. and stop preaching saying that what you think is the truth. Even if you strongly believe it, we don't and we will not accept this as the truth, or even as a reasonable response to what we are typing.

look, i know no one can just simply accept what i say, and that's exactly why i am trying to hammer it in, because if i dont, you jsut get to put up with ten times worse than me when you die!


im trying to ease you into reality.


but you fight it, you'll fight it now, you'll fight it when your body dies, and the mental stress is just not worth fighting this!

but you're right, i haven't been very respectful of your beliefs, primarily because no one is very respectful to the real truth, the truth i can ee, the truth i wish i was blind to like the rest of you! honnestly, please dont take that as insulting... i know it is...

but yeh... i guess the only way i can prove it is for you to die

[MudFu]

look, i know no one can just simply accept what i say, and that's exactly why i am trying to hammer it in, because if i dont, you jsut get to put up with ten times worse than me when you die!


im trying to ease you into reality.


but you fight it, you'll fight it now, you'll fight it when your body dies, and the mental stress is just not worth fighting this!

but you're right, i haven't been very respectful of your beliefs, primarily because no one is very respectful to the real truth, the truth i can ee, the truth i wish i was blind to like the rest of you! honnestly, please dont take that as insulting... i know it is...

but yeh... i guess the only way i can prove it is for you to die

Wow...way to prove sugar right...you really can't see past your ideas...weren't you the same person who tells others to open your mind and see the truth. If you are unable to see our truths then you have no right to say that. You have stong faith in what you say but it still may not be true. I choose to take in what I heard and make my mind up after. Keep an open mind and see what makes sence to me. Your "theory" has some interesting ideas to it but to me you just seem like a person who truly fears the idea of death so you have decided that death is a new form of life.

[mrdevious]

well, we haven't heard from openmind in a while, but I've seen my fair share of people in forums saying "fuck you all I'm gonna kill myself now!" and coming on 2 months later pretending it never happened, so who really knows.