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    #21
    Junior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    i love bongs with a deep passion.
    thats just me tho...

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    #22
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by VapedG13
    Vapes blow hot air through your weed...there is no combustion...you eliminate 80% of the toxins found in MJ smoke.

    Yes there are toxins and tars ect. in MJ smoke.... hold a tissue paper up to the bong next time you hit it .....draw your hit through the paper....look at the nice brown stain on your paper

    Vapes allow you to extract over 90% of the thc content of your weed.... bongs 70%

    Vapes give you more of a head high.

    Only thing better than a vape is injesting weed.... more intense and longer lasting high
    You don't need to use a tissue to tell that there's some nasty shit in smoke. I mean, just look at the bongwater.

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    #23
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by 420_24/7
    You don't need to use a tissue to tell that there's some nasty shit in smoke. I mean, just look at the bongwater.
    you can still see brown build up with a vape too

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    #24
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Revanche21
    you can still see brown build up with a vape too
    I cant see any kind of anything and i just finished 2 bags with my volcano on 350*F :vap_rasta: and drew it through a piece of TP

    To me if you vape for a week and dont smoke anything .....then try to smoke a bowl....its like sticking your face in a BBQ and inhale the smoke


    Quote Originally Posted by 420_24/7
    You don't need to use a tissue to tell that there's some nasty shit in smoke. I mean, just look at the bongwater.
    The water in the bong is that way from catching the ashes and weed remains ....water doesnt really catch/filter out to many toxins

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    #25
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by VapedG13
    The water in the bong is that way from catching the ashes and weed remains ....water doesnt really catch/filter out to many toxins
    Neither does a tissue.

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    #26
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by 420_24/7
    Neither does a tissue.
    But that tisse isnt used to filter ...its used as a measuring device... a visual aid... to see how much bullcrap is still in the smoke after its gone through the water

    Thats why you place the piece of TP over the mouth of the bong and draw your hit/smoke through the TP.... look after one good hit a nice yellow/brown tint

    Try the same thing with a pipe or joint draw your hit through TP ....nasty stuff hitting your lungs

    I not trying to tell anyone how to get high ....Just trying to show a healthier way to get there:thumbsup:

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    #27
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by VapedG13
    But that tisse isnt used to filter ...its used as a measuring device... a visual aid... to see how much bullcrap is still in the smoke after its gone through the water

    Thats why you place the piece of TP over the mouth of the bong and draw your hit/smoke through the TP.... look after one good hit a nice yellow/brown tint

    Try the same thing with a pipe or joint draw your hit through TP ....nasty stuff hitting your lungs

    I not trying to tell anyone how to get high ....Just trying to show a healthier way to get there:thumbsup:
    the water IS the visual aid to see how much bullcrap is in the smoke its the first of defense in filtration

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    #28
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Revanche21
    the water IS the visual aid to see how much bullcrap is in the smoke its the first of defense in filtration

    water catches all the ashes and spent weed thats why it turns black

    water DOES NOT filter or eliminate toxins or tars ... Decent digitally controlled vaporizers do

    The vaporizer produced THC at a temperature of 185° C. (365° F.) and completely eliminated three measured toxins - benzene, a known carcinogen, plus toluene and naphthalene
    These toxins are known to be in MJ smoke

    Carbon monoxide and smoke tars were both qualitatively reduced by the vaporizer, but additional testing is needed to quantify the extent of the decrease.
    NORML -MAPS Study Shows Vaporizers Reduce Toxins in Marijuana Smoke
    Medical marijuana patients may protect themselves from harmful toxins in marijuana smoke by inhaling their medicine using an electric vaporizer, according to results of a study by California NORML and MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies).
    The study showed that it is possible to vaporize medically active THC by heating marijuana to a temperature short of the point of combustion, thereby eliminating or substantially reducing harmful smoke toxins that are normally present in marijuana smoke. Vaporizers may therefore substantially reduce what is widely regarded as the leading health hazard of marijuana, namely respiratory harm due to smoking

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    #29
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    Heres some more info

    The characteristics of the bong enable the material to be smoked in ways not possible with a simple pipe or spliff. Because the chamber on most bongs can be up to 6 inches (15 cm) in diameter the speed of the air moving through the chamber is reduced and the chamber now acts as a large buffer of smoke. Depending on the length of the bong a considerable amount of smoke can be built up in this way. On the larger bongs, about 4 ft (1.2 m) tall, the operator must stop drawing on the bong when the smoke reaches their lips. At this point the operator must exhale deeply, open the carb, and use the entire contents of their lungs to clear the chamber of the charge of smoke. This high concentration of smoke in the lungs enables the operator to transfer much higher quantities of the chemicals in the smoke into their lungs but also tends to waste large amounts of the smoke. The longer the operator can hold the hit in, the more chemicals he will extract from it, but this becomes more difficult as the smoke gets more dense and the quantity increases. Individuals in the Cannabis culture who can hold in a monster hit are typically held in high regard.

    Bubbling the smoke through water also serves to cool down the smoke, which is typically very hot, and to trap some of the heavier and more water-soluble particulate matter, keeping it from entering the smokers lungs. Most smokers believe that bongs are healthier than other smoking devices; however, a 2000 NORML-MAPS study found that waterpipes filter out more psychoactive THC than they do other tars, thereby requiring users to smoke more to reach their desired effect. The analysis used smoke from NIDA-supplied marijuana drawn through a smoking machine adjusted to mimic the puff length of marijuana smokers. The apparatus, comparing smoke from a standard bong, a small portable device with a folding pipestem, a battery-operated model with a motorized paddle to thoroughly mix the smoke in the water, and two different types of vaporizers, found that the unfiltered joint outperformed all devices except the vaporizers, with a ratio of about 1 part cannabinoids to 13 parts tar.

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    #30
    Senior Member

    Bong vs Vaporizer

    yeah, but if the water collects all the ash and weed bits that fall through, doesnt that mean that when you smoke normally, as in through a pipe or joint, that it still filters out the bad stuff, even to a minimal degree, gotta get the diffusers. and we all know that vaporizers are healthiest when properly used because they dont burn anything so no tars so a tissue test would prove nothing more than what i just said there.

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