Are bongs/waterpipes counter-productive?

[beachguy in thongs]

Unless a bong really does lose that much THC. I've only met a couple people who insist that methods of smoke consumption other than bongs get them higher.

It said that any filtration system will lose the potency of the active cannabinoids.

[Whos Carl]

How does a vapouriser lose so much THC it just heats up the weed to the point when it realises the THC and then you breathe that in. I really dont understand because I use hardly any weed in mine and get royally stoned everytime.

[beachguy in thongs]

I don't figure that. I believed otherwise until I read the study.

Edit: Nevermind, I read it wrong. And so did you.

I said joints lose less THC. BUT, if you think about it, I don't see how it makes sense, since a joint is continually burning, and bongs tend to have less smoke escape the bowl.

Hey, steamrollers go out as soon as you release the carb and suck in the smoke.
Except, a little bit, if you pack the bowl more than you actually need.

[lateralus]

I've been posting shit about that all day.

HERE:

THC Transfer Rate

The MAPS-NORML study provides new information on the efficiency of different devices in delivering THC from marijuana to the user. Previous studies have shown that 60% - 80% of the THC burned in joints or waterpipes is lost in slipstream smoke, adhesion to the pipestem and bowl, pyrolysis, etc. [Mario Perez-Reyes, Marijuana Smoking: Factors that Influence the Bioavailability of Tetrahydrocannabinol, in C. Nora Chiang and Richard Hawks, ed., Research Findings on Smoking of Abused Substances, NIDA Research Monograph 99, 1990]. The percentage of total THC delivered to the user is called the THC transfer rate. The unfiltered joint scored surprisingly well in smoking efficiency, coming in second place with a transfer rate close to 20%. The portable waterpipe did slightly better, and the bong slightly worse. The other devices did notably worse. The vaporizers and electric waterpipe did especially poorly, with transfer rates less than one-third that of the top three devices. Thus, heavy smokers could literally be blowing most of their stash away with bad pipes.

Well, I was almost right.

Hey, studies have the potential to be wrong, though. Let's hope to hear of more studies.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

whaaaaat? vaproizers suck?!? since when???

[lateralus]

Whoa, a lot happened while I was reading. ;x

[beachguy in thongs]

whaaaaat? vaproizers suck?!? since when???

Since they've figured out THC Transfer Rates.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I don't figure that. I believed otherwise until I read the study.

Edit: Nevermind, I read it wrong. And so did you.

I said joints lose less THC. BUT, if you think about it, I don't see how it makes sense, since a joint is continually burning, and bongs tend to have less smoke escape the bowl.

hahaha good call

[beachguy in thongs]

Whoa, a lot happened while I was reading. ;x

No shit, this is the craziest day since I've been here. A whopping four months.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Since they've figured out THC Transfer Rates.

that cant be, unless THC is NOT, in fact, the high!


unless everyone who uses a vaporizor is just blowin' smoke when the ysay it gets them higher on less!