Quote Originally Posted by CocaCola
I've always gotten effects with just a bic and holding the flame to the Salvia as I inhale. Maybe a Torch would be more convenient for some, but it's not needed for me. :thumbsup:

I'm sure it 'worked', but you just won't get the same effects from a Bic. Its science man. When you use a Bic- your not combusting all of the Salvinorum A, the Bic just doesn't get hot enough. For all of your Salvinorum A to combust your lighter has to reach at least 464 degrees, thats 100 degrees hotter than it takes to burn cannabis. So thats why it takes the hotter direct flame from a butane torch to combust everything.