I think i know why my last attempt didn't go so well. I read somewhere (don't remember where) that the top 1/3 of fan leaves needed to be removed, so me like a dumbass, i clipped away. Well now with more advice and reliable info, i hope to have my first hydro harvest. Thanks Z. I will be starting 12/12 in two days and i can use all the help i can get. More threads to come with more questions. This time i won't be a mole just looking around for answers and not asking questions. Thanks again.

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