sorry bout the wait guys been alil busy lately bu here they come and as for the mh fixture that didnt go through as smouthly as i'd hoped so im gonna stick to good old cfl but i managed to get some 43w cfls with a added lumens value of about 6000 psf so that'll hold me down till i need to flower these new pics are of my newly spouted bagseeds there about a week old today and doing way better then my original set up..second pictures of my original first sprout which i managed to nurse back after burning her hope she wasnt 2 stressed i guess experience is the best teacher after all today i should be picking up some foxfarm grow big and a few more lamps for the new bulbs they should be getting here sometime this afternoon thanks turtle and bukdat this site is a big advantage for what we do how we do it when we doen it keep growen ...ps my son says merry late christmass..