black role models

[Psycho4Bud]

oh and BTW this is an excuse -----> The parents are to busy working all day and getting less than 8 hours sleep to do parenting.

I worked my husband worked both my parents worked SO WHAT?

You just have to make the best of your time and learn to turn the TV off and always eat at the table. no exceptions on that rule....

I couldn't agree more!!!! Parents need to take a little responsibility for RAISING their children. Sounds like you got things in hand!! :thumbsup:

By the way...isn't this a nice lil' comment?

'fraid not, psycho. I wont lie, ive got no love for the jews, especially israelis

[BlueCat00]

The jew part is just plain wrong......but I myself have a problem with Israel....it is sad that the actions of Israel are stirring these feelings in people. They need to understand it is the Israeli government and the US government and not the Jewish people...Our government is creating the problem.

[Psycho4Bud]

The jew part is just plain wrong......but I myself have a problem with Israel....it is sad that the actions of Israel are stirring these feelings in people. They need to understand it is the Israeli government and the US government and not the Jewish people...Our government is creating the problem.

There is wrong on both sides but comments like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made for Israel to be wiped off the map only esculates matters. It's not as if these countries are direct neighbors...shouldn't the Israeli people and government be concerned about their nuclear ambitions?

......a little off topic....

[BlueCat00]

Its not the 1st time that comment has been made by Iran...it was just the 1st time the media hyped it up....I don't think anyone in the Isreal should have Nukes...they are all to hot headed.

[Psycho4Bud]

Its not the 1st time that comment has been made by Iran...it was just the 1st time the media hyped it up....I don't think anyone in the Isreal should have Nukes...they are all to hot headed.

I really don't understand how you can down play the situation with Iran and spin it to Israel. The thing is this, Iran wouldn't mind seeing us dead either!

[Polymirize]

Kind of back to the topic Blue, what would your feelings be if your son was to use the co-founder of the Crips as a "role model"?

In fact, to actually move back to the point, we'd have to talk about a man who has committed (and admitted to) horrible crimes, and has since done everything he can to influence the youth to make better choices than he did.

Surely you agree people can change? Isn't forgiveness what christianity and republican values are reportably based on?

[Breukelen advocaat]

one of my boys wears so called gangsta clothing.....it is just the dress of the day...like bell bottoms in the 60s or black leather in the 50s
It can be very hard for Blacks to make the change for themselves when there is still so much descrimination out there....just look at some of these comments...the playing field is by no means leveled.

It IS gangster clothing.

Kids today are emulating the clothing of urban criminals. The "gansta" clothing is based on the way prisoners look when they are going to prison. The untied shoelaces are a tribute to the untying of shoelaces by police officers when accused, or convicted, criminals are transported to court or jails to make it harder to escape. Similarly, the extremely baggy jeans are a reference to ill-fitting jail clothes.

Boys think that acting, and talking, like urban minority criminals makes them "sexy" to girls, and "tough" to their peers. It's pathetic to see suburbanite kids emulating this scum. In the past, the bell-bottoms were available at Army and Navy stores, then they were made for marketing in regular fashion stores, and other military styles even became popular with the 60's generation. This may have been to give a sense of irony to the war in VietNam - you know, long hair and old army uniforms, or uniform-type clothing, but I think that it was a far better idea than what the kids today are doing. Additionally, military clothing for men and women looks GOOD - it is designed to make people look their best, and garment experts understood this. Leather Jackets are functional, and preferred by motorcycle riders who would rather shed the jacket than their skin in the event of an accident. I don't ride a motorcycle, but I always wear a leather "bomber" jacket when I ride my bicycle in the winter. The "bomber" is also a military style, developed for the air force. I used to have an original one, that I bought used in the late 1960's.

If these middle-class kids really knew what living in the South Bronx, the gutters of Brooklyn, and the communities of other urban enclaves for criminals was really like in the 1970â??s and 80â??s, theyâ??d have a different view of their preferred attire.

[Torog]

Condoleezza Rice is a lying-ass lapdog for W, pure and simple. She's just the same as Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Snow and all the rest. F*ck her and f*ck them. The whole lot of 'em is decimating this country.


I concur...

it has nothing to do with skin color it is the company you keep....

Torog siding with tholiak? He is as racist as you can get.....shame on you
the mods were wise in banning him.

one of my boys wears so called gangsta clothing.....it is just the dress of the day...like bell bottoms in the 60s or black leather in the 50s

It can be very hard for Blacks to make the change for themselves when there is still so much descrimination out there....just look at some of these comments...the playing field is by no means leveled.

Howdy BlueCat,

I sided with Tholiak on this issue..that doesn't mean that I support everything that he says or does.

Bill Cosby..would side with me on this issue..he's already made alot of black folks angry at him for daring to speak up and tell the truth..the one's that he angers,are all liberals who don't believe that anyone should be held accountable for their behaviour..or be judged on the merit of their character.

So..if Sec. of State Rice,was a democrapper..you'd accept her as being a role model ? Or..because of the company that she keeps..all of her accomplishments are for naught ? I brought Colin Powell into this debate,because he's in the same boat as Sec. Rice..none of what he's done in his life-matters to those of y'all who judge others solely by the company they keep..oh well..what can I expect..hard work and good character,are dirty words to the Left.

I hope that those blacks who realize that Bill Cosby's words ring true..and those who realize just how badly black folks like Rice and Powell are being treated by the Left..abandon their plantation mentality and wake up to just how the Left truly feels about them..and place their votes for those who recognize hard work and good character.

BTW, the one who's wearing gangsta clothing..is in danger of becoming a wigger..which is no surprise,given that the Left adores and idolizes a cultural expression that's rife with murderers and gangsters..and he's been inundated with hatred for being guilty of being a white man.

Have a good one....

[Psycho4Bud]

In fact, to actually move back to the point, we'd have to talk about a man who has committed (and admitted to) horrible crimes, and has since done everything he can to influence the youth to make better choices than he did.

I love it when convicted criminals "see the light". It suppose anyone would see the light when the end of the tunnel has the chair waiting.

Surely you agree people can change? Isn't forgiveness what christianity and republican values are reportably based on?

People can change....to bad that he screwed up in such a major way before he did.

As for the "Republican Values", your talkin' to a Libertarian. You'll have to ask Torog for compassion! :thumbsup:

[lemonboy]

BTW, the one who's wearing gangsta clothing..is in danger of becoming a wigger..which is no surprise,given that the Left adores and idolizes a cultural expression that's rife with murderers and gangsters..and he's been inundated with hatred for being guilty of being a white man.

Was it just going to take too long to type out "white nigger" or was that just a little bit of "cultural expression" for us?