Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?

[Torog]

Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?

New York Daily News ^ | 11/18/05 | Editorial


Whatever happened to Semper Fi?

Congressman John Murtha, Democrat of Pennsylvania, is a retired Marine colonel, decorated Vietnam veteran, ranking member of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, longtime supporter of the military and a noted hawk who was an early advocate of the U.S. incursion into Iraq - a man, in short, none would call faint of heart. When such a figure declares that the time has come for America to turn tail and bug out, his views carry more weight than do the similar assessments of the Dennis Kuciniches and Barbara Boxers and Cindy Sheehans of the world. But, sadly, he is as wrongheaded as they are, and Murtha might as well be sending up the white flag for all the terrorist gangs to see. Doubtless there is much rejoicing in Al Qaeda's rat holes this day over still another encouraging cut-and-run signal from U.S. shores that maybe someday soon, with U.S. troops pulled out, the rodents will have Iraq - and beyond - all to themselves.

Murtha's mouthings arrive hard on the heels of ex-President Bill Clinton, whose utterly disgraceful shame-on-America remarks in Dubai the other day could only have made it sufficiently plain to many millions of Middle Easterners, both those who are with us and those who are not, that the United States cannot be counted on to stand behind the historic mission that toppled the butcher Saddam Hussein, helped persuade crazed Libya to give up its nuclear intentions, was instrumental in driving Syria out of Lebanon and is daily leaning hard on the malevolent mullahs of Iran.

Defeatism, it's called. Willingness to give it all up. In Washington, it isn't so much the war effort is going badly as it is the poll numbers are going badly. Congress has a nervous eye on America's popular distemper, and many on Capitol Hill want some idea of a withdrawal deadline. But a commander would be mad to even consider setting such a deadline, inviting an implacable foe to sit tight and wait it out.

There's still a job to be done - a miserable slog, no doubt, and one, it is true, that could and should have been undertaken more efficiently from the beginning. But the job cannot be left unfinished. Yes, defeatism is in the American wind, there's no question about that. It must not prevail. For what is already in the wind far across the sea is the gleeful, hideous laughter of a triumphant enemy.

Torog Reviewed by Torog on 11-18-2005. Whatever happened to Semper Fi ? Whatever happened to Semper Fi ? New York Daily News ^ | 11/18/05 | Editorial Whatever happened to Semper Fi? Congressman John Murtha, Democrat of Pennsylvania, is a retired Marine colonel, decorated Vietnam veteran, ranking member of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, longtime supporter of the military and a noted hawk who was an early advocate of the U.S. incursion into Iraq - a man, in short, none would call faint of heart. When such a figure declares that the time Rating: 5

[CocaCola]

I love that quote in your sig. A good reminder of how self-centered America is... "Either you are with [the] US, or you are with the terrorists". Fantastic. Thanks America! Here is an idea... Israel harbors terrorists... go bomb them.

[Tholiak]

Israel harbors terrorist...did you eat paint chips when you were a kid?

[Torog]

I love that quote in your sig. A good reminder of how self-centered America is... "Either you are with [the] US, or you are with the terrorists". Fantastic. Thanks America! Here is an idea... Israel harbors terrorists... go bomb them.

Howdy CocaCola,

Everyone should be against terrorism and it's very selfish and self-centered of you,to not fight it or to not support freedom and democracy for all. How can you have freedom..then turn yer back on those who don't ? Why should the Free World ,abide with terrorists and the countries that support such ? Why do you feel that it's okay for terrorists to git away with anything that they want ?

You want to bomb Israel,a democracy,but you see no reason to stop terrorism..that's the height of self-centeredness to me.

I think that you've been drinking too much cocacola and the sugar has rotted what few brain cells ya have...lol.

Have a good one ....

[Breukelen advocaat]

Re: posting by CocaCola: Israel harbors terrorist...did you eat paint chips when you were a kid?

Born in 1988, he still IS a "kid".

BTW, CocaCola, Happy Birthday! Thank you for supporting a United States beverage corporation, even though you are from "Canaduh". Some of you would have named yourselves "Canada Dry".

[Psycho4Bud]

Howdy Torog!

Ya know, I'm all for freedom of speach but with great power comes greater responsibility. For an ex-president, Commander in Chief, to pronounce something like Clinton did while our troops are still in harms way is criminal!

All this boy is doing is building up a platform for good ol' Hillary. It's disgraceful to see that he'll put his families political agenda ahead of those soldiers fighting in foreign lands! :twocents:

[eg420ne]

You cant bomb Gods chosen people, whatever they say is absolute.

[hempity]

Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?

New York Daily News ^ | 11/18/05 | Editorial


Whatever happened to Semper Fi?

Congressman John Murtha, Democrat of Pennsylvania, is a retired Marine colonel, decorated Vietnam veteran, ranking member of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, longtime supporter of the military and a noted hawk who was an early advocate of the U.S. incursion into Iraq - a man, in short, none would call faint of heart. When such a figure declares that the time has come for America to turn tail and bug out, his views carry more weight than do the similar assessments of the Dennis Kuciniches and Barbara Boxers and Cindy Sheehans of the world. But, sadly, he is as wrongheaded as they are, and Murtha might as well be sending up the white flag for all the terrorist gangs to see. Doubtless there is much rejoicing in Al Qaeda's rat holes this day over still another encouraging cut-and-run signal from U.S. shores that maybe someday soon, with U.S. troops pulled out, the rodents will have Iraq - and beyond - all to themselves.

Murtha's mouthings arrive hard on the heels of ex-President Bill Clinton, whose utterly disgraceful shame-on-America remarks in Dubai the other day could only have made it sufficiently plain to many millions of Middle Easterners, both those who are with us and those who are not, that the United States cannot be counted on to stand behind the historic mission that toppled the butcher Saddam Hussein, helped persuade crazed Libya to give up its nuclear intentions, was instrumental in driving Syria out of Lebanon and is daily leaning hard on the malevolent mullahs of Iran.

Defeatism, it's called. Willingness to give it all up. In Washington, it isn't so much the war effort is going badly as it is the poll numbers are going badly. Congress has a nervous eye on America's popular distemper, and many on Capitol Hill want some idea of a withdrawal deadline. But a commander would be mad to even consider setting such a deadline, inviting an implacable foe to sit tight and wait it out.

There's still a job to be done - a miserable slog, no doubt, and one, it is true, that could and should have been undertaken more efficiently from the beginning. But the job cannot be left unfinished. Yes, defeatism is in the American wind, there's no question about that. It must not prevail. For what is already in the wind far across the sea is the gleeful, hideous laughter of a triumphant enemy.

Ho Torog,
a year before bush stole the election, there were freedom fighters, now there are only nondescript terrorist surrounding you, threatening to rape your baby's and eat your women, this in itself is absurd.
From before the time of the crusaders and Saladin, the white christains have thought they knew what was best for the world, and have tried to push their perverted ideas of freedom onto the world.
now the u.s. and those they call allies are the only countries allowed to have nuclear weapons, the only countries free to use biological and untested weapons on their own people, even torture is within your means. where now do you draw the line between good and evil? are the good guys the ones that can have elections that can be rigged? are the good guys the ones that can torture and hold people without charges or trials? the good guys can bust down doors and drag people away in the dead of night never to be heard from again? got any real answers? or just the pap and drivel the government feeds you?

[eg420ne]

Hey pretty soon the republicans will come out and denounce the iraq war, cause nov 06 is getting closer

[BlueCat00]

don't worry Torog...Semper Fi still stands....I just spent 3 weeks surrounded by handsome marines....with their values intact.

They don't trust anyone that has never worn the uniform now do you really blame them?
Our military has the finest most trustworthy young people giving their everything for their country..
you don't worry about them worry about your elected officials that hid instead of serving their country and now try to pretend they know something about war. They see our soldiers as expendable...the cost of war....tell that to a mom or dad whos son is on the front lines. No life is expendable.