i took e for 10 ish years pretty regular woulndnt touch them now.they are not like what they used to be ,the best one i ever had was a "clover" fucking dynamite,had hundreds of mitsi,s in my time also.But it was getting out of hand one weekend in Berlin i necked around 25 e,my fucking liver was rock hard and fucking sore for days after......i knew i had to stop.