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    #21
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    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by zooted999
    How can you generalize like that? Your taking the actions of a select few and and think EVERY should be held accountable for it? How is that any different from a white American who believes that just because one black street gang robbed his house, all black people should be annihilated? Not everything has to be so extreme??I agree that the world is a safer place without Saddam Hussein, but I think a statement like the one you made is the equivalent of the very small group of muslim terrorists who think anybody who doesn??t accept their faith must die.
    It is NOT only a ??very small group of muslim terrorists who think anybody who doesn??t accept their faith must die?. It??s the backbone of their religion.
    Here??s some pictures. If you are easily disturbed by lynching, stoning, pedophilia and pederasty, mutilation of children by their parents, children wired up with dynamite, and other extreme acts, don??t look at it.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/gallery.htm

    The website above, which is dedicated to ending Islamic faiths, leaves no stone unturned as to the utter insanity, and dangers, of this religion. Judaism and Christianity are bad enough, but if there were awards for abominations and atrocities these guys would take First Prize in almost every category.

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    #22
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    It is NOT only a ??very small group of muslim terrorists who think anybody who doesn??t accept their faith must die?. It??s the backbone of their religion.
    Here??s some pictures. If you are easily disturbed by lynching, stoning, pedophilia and pederasty, mutilation of children by their parents, children wired up with dynamite, and other extreme acts, don??t look at it.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/gallery.htm

    The website above, which is dedicated to ending Islamic faiths, leaves no stone unturned as to the utter insanity, and dangers, of this religion. Judaism and Christianity are bad enough, but if there were awards for abominations and atrocities these guys would take First Prize in almost every category.

    Interesting...you provide a link portraying the fanaticism of the muslim religion, but yet you provide none about the fanatacism of christianity or judaism...

    although both (christianity in particular) religions are equally as responsible for committing atrocities over the course of history.


    very interesting...

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    #23
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
    Interesting...you provide a link portraying the fanaticism of the muslim religion, but yet you provide none about the fanatacism of christianity or judaism...although both (christianity in particular) religions are equally as responsible for committing atrocities over the course of history.very interesting...
    I also believe that Christianity, Judaism, and all other religions are wrong. I do not think that they (Christians and Jews) are as crazy as the Muslims of today are, and Islam is currently the world??s most severe problem. The three big Monotheistic faiths are all linked, and Islam is the most dangerous one today because of the enormous number of adherents that are convinced that their way is the ONLY way.

    Here??s some links about the dangers of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam:
    http://www.deism.org/atrocities.htm

    http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/consequence.html

    ??In general, Jews do not proselytize, but they do welcome newcomers to their faith.?
    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001462.html

    All of these religions have to go, but Islam is the worst. Bush consoles all sides, and acts like there is some "value" in the Islamic beliefs. He is wrong - just as he is wrong about Christianity.

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    #24
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Don't you think that it's a bit of an exaggeration however, to proclaim that EVERY muslim, even most muslims want the extermination of everyone who isn't like them?

    It just seems wildly inappropriate to say that the solution to the beliefs of the few is to take away the lives of the many. Sounds tyrannical.

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    #25
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by zooted999
    Don't you think that it's a bit of an exaggeration however, to proclaim that EVERY muslim, even most muslims want the extermination of everyone who isn't like them? It just seems wildly inappropriate to say that the solution to the beliefs of the few is to take away the lives of the many. Sounds tyrannical.
    They have to be taught that raising, harboring and supporting homocidal, terror-creating jihadists is not in their best interest. The worst "tyrants" are the religous extremists, and their economically motivated power-hungry supporters, who are doing this to us - and now even to their own people.

    Rationality must win out on this one, or the consequences may mean the end of life on this planet as we know it. Muslims have been creating trouble for 14 centuries, and it's only getting worse. All they have to do is band together and put an end to it, and I hope that they do - for everyone's sake.

    Even Fidel Castro, a notorious dictator, is against terrorism! His people are allowed to have weapons, and no one's shot him yet.

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    #26
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    I also believe that Christianity, Judaism, and all other religions are wrong. I do not think that they (Christians and Jews) are as crazy as the Muslims of today are, and Islam is currently the world??s most severe problem. The three big Monotheistic faiths are all linked, and Islam is the most dangerous one today because of the enormous number of adherents that are convinced that their way is the ONLY way.

    Here??s some links about the dangers of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam:
    http://www.deism.org/atrocities.htm

    http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/consequence.html

    ??In general, Jews do not proselytize, but they do welcome newcomers to their faith.?
    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001462.html

    All of these religions have to go, but Islam is the worst. Bush consoles all sides, and acts like there is some "value" in the Islamic beliefs. He is wrong - just as he is wrong about Christianity.

    interesting...

    you support a war to eradicate islamic fundamentalism...only to leave victory in the hands of someone who claims that God talks to him in his head,,,

    I know there are many crazy muslims out there...but they dont talk too much about allah speaking to them personally.


    very interesting...

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    #27
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    They have to be taught that raising, harboring and supporting homocidal, terror-creating jihadists is not in their best interest. The worst "tyrants" are the religous extremists, and their economically motivated power-hungry supporters, who are doing this to us - and now even to their own people.

    Rationality must win out on this one, or the consequences may mean the end of life on this planet as we know it. Muslims have been creating trouble for 14 centuries, and it's only getting worse. All they have to do is band together and put an end to it, and I hope that they do - for everyone's sake.

    Even Fidel Castro, a notorious dictator, is against terrorism! His people are allowed to have weapons, and no one's shot him yet.

    interesting...

    so to attain peace, wars must be pre-emptively fought against those that have no idea who you are?

    So, if say China didn't like the nuclear weapons program the u.s. is drawing up right now as we speak, and thought that more powerful weaponry in the hands of the united states could not be tolerated, you'd cheer on chinese troops storming the cities and launching warheads and kidnapping american citizens for vital information?

    if china thought that america posed a huge threat to their country, you'd support them in all endeavours?

    i mean, america's been causing trouble in the international community for the last 60 years or so...

    very interesting...

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    #28
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
    interesting...so to attain peace, wars must be pre-emptively fought against those that have no idea who you are?
    The main "war" that must be fought is that of promoting rational thinking. Actual combat is a last resort, but if it were necessary for our survival and well being, then I'd go with it - as would most civilized people.

    So, if say China didn't like the nuclear weapons program the u.s. is drawing up right now as we speak, and thought that more powerful weaponry in the hands of the united states could not be tolerated, you'd cheer on chinese troops storming the cities and launching warheads and kidnapping american citizens for vital information?
    The government and population of China are getting increasingly enlightened as to the futility of attempting to continue the type of economy that they have been living with. The other day, a burka wearing girl, in her 20's, was sitting across from me on the subway. Next to her was an Asian girl, about the same age and size. There was no question, in my mind, as to which one I would prefer to know. Keep in mind, that the Asian woman was much further removed from me, racially, than the middle-eastern one. I would say the same for people of ANY race that are rational.

    if china thought that america posed a huge threat to their country, you'd support them in all endeavours?
    Although they have the "wrong" type of government, the Chinese are rational. Even when they were helping North Viet Nam, nobody was afraid that they would take it to the next level with us.

    i mean, america's been causing trouble in the international community for the last 60 years or so...
    That's an opinion that some people have - but the extent, importance, and reasons for the conflicts in question are not uniform . No matter what you do, somebody disagrees.

    very interesting...
    OK, the "very interesting" tagline is getting very old, as in "boring". Please do everyone a favor and drop it.

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    #29
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    OK, the "very interesting" tagline is getting very old, as in "boring". Please do everyone a favor and drop it.

    interesting...

    so you say that war should be fought as a last resort, but 9/11 was a little over four years ago...the war was started about three years ago...so by your reasoning, you must think that less than a year is sufficient time to diplomatically change the cultural and idealogical system of a country before bombing them to pieces...

    You also say that you would rather get to know th asian girl, simply because she wasnt wearing a burka...freedom at its finest i see.

    hmmm....China continues to send spies into many different countries to steal their research, sign war treaties with the likes of russia and n. korea...and has generals that openly state that they are willing to use nukes against north america... but yet you state that China has no plans to assert itself militarily because they are "rational"

    It seems to be my understanding that Saddam was being rational when he let wepaons inspectors in his country, but the u.s. took over anyway.

    Rational indeed.

    What's also interesting is the fact that you think ive started my "very interesting" approach as a way to humor you...


    Very interesting...

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    #30
    Senior Member

    Bush cant handle the truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    OK, the "very interesting" tagline is getting very old, as in "boring". Please do everyone a favor and drop it.

    Nick must have found a good bag! Instead of ignorant neo-con motherfucker we get....very interesting....the dude is just a lil' more fucked up than usual! :thumbsup:

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