damn turtle 87-88F...is still 10 deggrees away from where u wanna be i have 5 sproutings out ontop of my stereo by the ventalation in my apt. with the boiler set at 70 deggrees lights and reflectors and there doing great ombiant right above the plants is at a stedy 78 to 79 with the now and then opening of my window hopefully i'll have pics up soon