Quote Originally Posted by Polymirize
Two things, the first would be to concede defeat to pisshead. Yes, that's quite an impressive batch of statistics. I won't even check it, because I'm sure the Gun Owners foundation isn't in any way biased, but merely wants the truth to be known.

... idiot.

And second, in response to nic, first off, thanks for actually summarizing your thoughts into an original post... It seems like you really live in fear of your fellow man. Maybe you think you need a gun to be safe. But statistically you're more likely to shoot yourself or a family member than to ever have to shoot at an intruder or some other member of the criminal element (assuming of course, that you're not in fact a member of the criminal element). When you add that to the fact that most criminals obtain their guns illegally (see; stolen from people who have guns) doesn't it seem like the best way to reduce this would be to eliminate "legal" guns from the system?
And no, I'm not suggesting a complete ban on weapons, but realistically, everytime I hear somebody say they need an automatic weapon to hunt deer, I conclude that this person probably needs a different hobby, like badmitten, where they're less likely to hurt themselves or others.

Again, maybe you wouldn't see an immediate decrease in crime (sound familiar) from banning guns, but as the cops continue to do their job (and they do) and more and more illegal guns are removed from the street, it would be harder and harder for the criminal element to replace them.

Let me clarify: criminals can't buy guns at a store because of background checks. So criminals need to get guns from people who buy guns for protection from criminals. If people decided not to give into their fear of other people and arm themselves to the teeth, then these criminals would lose their source of guns... make sense? anyone else on board with this?
Howdy Polymirize,

First off..in order to obtain an automatic weapon to hunt deer,you have to have a federal firearms license to purchase a machine-gun,secondly,game wardens are always out in force during deer season,and would on someone using a machine-gun to hunt with,like stink on shit.

Also,you presume that every criminal is sober and sane,when in fact-many are not,many are out of their minds on one drug or another..it often takes 5 or 6 cops,just to subdue a single person on meth or pcp,for instance.

Another thing is,if folks took the time to learn how to handle firearms safely,then there would be many fewer accidental shootings and misuses of firearms.

If you choose to be helpless,so be it,just don't drag the rest of us,down with ya. I wonder,do you have any idea how long it would take for cops to arrive at yer house after calling 911 ? If it's more than 90 seconds,chances are they will just git there in time to pick up yer bloody pieces..it's kinda hard to reason with a feller that's been on a meth binge for 4 or 5 days.

Have a good one ...