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11-08-2005, 08:16 PM #1OPSenior Member
God cannot exist: Proof
Proof that God cannot exist, and flaws in general ideas about the Christian God.
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The Christian God is considered omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient.
He is all powerful, all good, and all knowing.
He will know if there is evil in the world, he will want to stop it, he has the power to stop it.
And yet there is evil... therefore God cannot possess all three qualities.
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God is omnipotent. He is all powerful. There is nothing he cannot do.
Can he create something so heavy he cannot lift it?
Can he lift something which is supposed to be too heavy for him to manage?
He obviously can't do both, therefore he can not be omnipotent.
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Use of the bible to justify a given course of action. If the bible says something is okay / not okay, then it must be true, right?
Wrong.
The bible says that eating meat from a pig is a sin.
The bible says that eating shellfish is a sin.
The bible says that wearing a linen / wool mix is a sin.
The bible says that lending money for interest is a sin.
You cannot pick and choose which bits to listen to! If the bible is the word of God, then it should be followed to the letter. If you're willing to admit that certain bits are out dated then you cannot make a case for the bits that you still think are relevant to be treated as divine law. Picking and choosing makes the whole idea of sin and morality completely arbitray.
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God created everything on Earth. God is good, and would have wanted to create things that worked well.
Not everything works well, many animals have features which could be called "poor design" if we were to believe God created them.
Therefore either God did not create these creatures, God is not all good and didn't mind having flawed creations wandering around, or God is not omnipotent, and just couldn't do any better.
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As many Christians tell me, God wants me to believe in him. God wants all humans to believe in him before they die, so they can go to heaven.
Not all humans believe in God, even though if he were all powerful he could ensure this happened.
Therefore either God does not exist, or he doesn't have the power to make us believe in him.
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Without further proof being offered from Christians, it makes more sense to not believe in the existence of God.
If there are two conflicting theories, you should always pick the less complicated option.
For example; There exists a creature called a flargh. A flargh is invisible, and intangible. I cannot see one, touch one, hear one, taste one, or smell one.
Or: There does not exist a creature called a flargh.
I could conduct all the research I wanted, and it would still fit both of the above options, so how am I to know that flargh's do not exist? Because it makes more sense not to believe in them.
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God is perfect. God created the universe.
Being perfect entails no needs, or wants.
If God does not need, or want anything, why would he create the universe?
Either God did not create the universe, or God is not perfect.
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A lot of these arguments end up with the idea that either God doesn't exist, or he doesn't exist in the way Christians claim. Even if God were real, surely his lack of perfection, and lack of omnipotence suggest that he too is fallible? Why put all your faith in something that might be wrong? Why expend so much effort in putting other people, and other people's religions down based on what God has said?
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