Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
I am not condoning, or condemning, the Native American "primitive" torture methods, or the rationale behind their uses. I was just pointing out that they did it, and appartently it was quite a tradition in their culture.

Hempity, AKA "Running Chicken Scalper", says, about the Case for Torture, "you are just justifying what you punks like to do anyway". By "you punks", he is referring to European white people, especially those in America - whom he will always be against, no matter who the enemy is, or what they do. Well, the man is wrong once again - on several counts. He is a great liar about history, and he says whatever suits him. Since he's got a small audience of high-school and college kids, many of whom don't know better, and a few '60's burn-outs, on his side, he just writes whatever he thinks will cause people to hate America, and her role in the world.

I would say that my position is similar to that of Mr. Levin, who wrote The Case for Torture (above). I make no apologies for this: Since 9/11 there??s been no attacks on American soil by terrorists ?? so if that was accomplished by torture, then so be it. Today's definition of "torture", as carried out by secret agences, is a far cry from the barbaric rituals of the Indians.
actually my native name is "crazy upright"
crazy, because i live in other worlds more than this one.
upright, to show the children how a man stands.
your history is based on the "victors" views, mine is based on the truth, as i lived it, the truth is that you are frightened and your tongue is forked. my students are mostly sun-dancers and red road walkers, they would surely let me know if i lied, or was standing on the blue road.