as far as hip hop goes, they stink, there to much GAY. they take they whole "i'm a juggalo and i'm going to slit your throught" thing a bit to far. They toss off the "im silly" aura and it pushes alot of people away. realy if you havn't, check out "Deltron 3030" great record. also bumpy knuckles indestry shakedown is a good record too. imp: