When was your awakening? or are you still asleep?

[mrdevious]

the majority of religions are based on one thing involving the human race:


EGO

mrdevious Reviewed by mrdevious on 11-04-2005. When was your awakening? or are you still asleep? I remember the day i had my awakening. It was in May of 1994. I was fed up with life, comtemplating suicide, had actually tried it and at the time felt a cold hand like power cover my heart and decided noway was any cold hand getting my heart!. I remember a phrase from my childhood " in the name of christ get behind me satan". I said that out loud, I was flooded with a light and warmth that was so powerful it moved me to tears. at that moment i woke up and started to Rating: 5

[beachguy in thongs]

So let's start a religion that doesn't involve Our ego.

Become the majority through cold-calling.

And we'll elect our own neo-pope.

[UnViaje]

fukk that, no more religion

self importance n arrogance are a real burden on one's spirituality. i've always practiced to conceive many universal paradigms shedding light on a broader scale everytime i meditate. i like goin crazy trippin out on myself, even more when i'm on something

[Oneironaut]

Where does this amazing sense of self-importance come from? To think that the entire universe in all it's complexity should limit itself so as to not go outside of your understanding?

Why? Give me one good reason to limit the scope of all that is, to that which I can understand...

Give me one good reason to expand the scope of all that is to things we have no evidence of. If we have no proof that something exists, why should we concern ourselves with it? Why speculate on the details of unicorns, leprechauns, Santa Claus, souls or gods if there is nothing that suggests they are even real? Certainly there are things in this universe we don't fully understand, like quantum mechanics, black holes and human cognition, but that does not mean we should postulate the existence of things which no one has been able to muster up the slightest bit of objective evidence for. If there is something out there we can't even detect, then clearly it has no effect at all on our lives and any speculation about it is useless.

"If God is, man is a slave; now man can and must be free; thus God does not exist." —Mikhail Bakunin

[beachguy in thongs]

Ermontito, you speculate a lot about something you don't believe in. More than me, and I have faith, you don't.

[Oneironaut]

Huh? What I meant is that pretending you know something to exist, and pretending to know how it works, is pointless when it is by its very nature undetectable. This "faith" you speak of, i.e. believing something which there is no evidence for, is illogical.

[MyAntiDrugIsAmy]

Give me one good reason to expand the scope of all that is to things we have no evidence of.

if you expand the scope of everything, and make room for possibilty outside of what we understand, you find evidence. the reason we've had scientific breakthroughs is because people think outside the box to try to prove things like gravity, medicinal cures, and paranormal. we have no fucking clue about a lot more than you think.

[MyAntiDrugIsAmy]

Huh? What I meant is that pretending you know something to exist, and pretending to know how it works, is pointless when it is by its very nature undetectable. This "faith" you speak of, i.e. believing something which there is no evidence for, is illogical.

so why not think there's probably some other reason why he has faith. if it's illogical, then why would he feel that way? there's something more that you probably aren't aware of.

[Euphoric]

[align=center]Experience will teach you very quickly about the existance of a soul.
Out Of Body Experiences, Astral Projection, Ghosts. These can be readily experienced from this plane of existance.
Look into the eyes of a newborn or into the eyes of a lover. Into the eyes of a beloved pet or even just a stranger. There is more there. If you know how to look.
When you're dead, floating around, still existing...you owe me $5.[/align]

[Oneironaut]

if you expand the scope of everything, and make room for possibilty outside of what we understand, you find evidence. the reason we've had scientific breakthroughs is because people think outside the box to try to prove things like gravity, medicinal cures, and paranormal. we have no fucking clue about a lot more than you think.

Scientific breakthroughs have happened when there vas something we observe that we just didn't know how to explain, and upon closer examination we were able to determine its origin. In every case in all of history, this origin has been something very real, some kind of matter and/or energy which has been shown to cause whatever physical phenomenon we were previously unable to explain. However, there isn't the slightest shred of evidence for things like leprechauns, unicorns, fairies, Santa Claus, souls or gods, and there just isn't anything that we can observe that would necessitate their existence. That is to say, there is no phenomenon in the universe which we can't explain but that we could if we postulated the existence of such creatures. Why believe in leprechauns, unicorns, souls or gods if there is no reason to?

so why not think there's probably some other reason why he has faith. if it's illogical, then why would he feel that way? there's something more that you probably aren't aware of.

You know very well that people don't always operate logically. Often people choose to believe in something because it is comforting to them, or because the idea has been drilled in their minds from birth, and they later come up with rationalizations for why they believe it even when there was no original logical reason for believing in it. The reason so many people have faith is pretty simple to see, when you consider why children almost always have the same religion as their parents or their culture. Most people just accept whatever beliefs their parents had or whatever their society believes, which explains, for example, why nearly all Iranians are Muslims but practically nobody in Hawaii is.