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[ermitonto]

Different story from what? It's in the Bible. It's all the same book. And I still haven't seen any evidence that there even was such a person named Moses, or that there ever were enslaved Jews in Egypt who then wandered around in the desert for 40 years (you'd think they'd have left some archeological evidence somewhere).

How can anyone say that the Bible is a book of peace, when it is filled with such heinous expressions of pure hatred and intolerance? I really don't see how it could possibly be construed as a message of peace, when the deity it describes is such an asshole to everybody who disagrees with him. Here are just some of the HUNDREDS OF VERSES illustrating this:

To start out, there's the clear admission by Jesus that his mission is actually to bring conflict and war to the Earth:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

And anyone who forgets about God will be torn to pieces:

Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.

I'm sure you're familiar with the plagues, in which God ruthlessly murders the first born child of all the Egyptians, who supposedly were keeping the Jews as slaves. Not the people committing the crimes, but THEIR CHILDREN! He doesn't use his infinite superpowers to directly solve the problem, but chooses instead to murder innocent little kids. Some loving God that is.

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

Whether you go to Heaven or Hell is totally dependent on whether you believe in Jesus. So Jeffrey Dahmer goes to Heaven but Gandhi goes to Hell and is tortured for all eternity. How could a peaceful, tolerant, loving God do something like that?

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

And then there's the story about how this supposedly loving God murders forty-two more innocent children by sending bears to rip them to pieces, just because they made fun of Elisha's baldress:

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

Then there's the part where God orders his chosen people to kill all the Amalekites because the ancestors of the Amalekites got in their way hundreds of years ago when they were trying to cross the desert. It's not just innocent children who are murdered this time, but a whole innocent people. That's genocide any way you look at it.

Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

What more proof do you need that this is some of the most vile hate literature in all of history? The insensitivity and outright cruelty of this stuff makes me sick to my stomach. I will never become a Christian because I could never subscribe to an ideology that condones genocide and murder, or an ideology that says the genocidal child-murdering dictator of the universe is somehow all-loving and cares about you. Peace will never come to Earth until Christianity and all other doctrines of hatred are abandoned.

[w4terb0ng]

I like Peter

:dance:

[Euphoric]

Nothing has been altered... The Dead Sea Scrolls prove that much of the Bible has been miraculously preserved. For instance, in the Dead Sea scrolls was found a complete book of Isaiah. This is a hotly debated prophet because of all his references pointing toward the Virgin Birth of Christ Jesus among many other prophesies that were fulfilled regarding Jesus.

By The Way,
Do you think God would let us run around this earth in Darkness w/no direction in life by allowing evil to corrupt his guide for living an upright and decent life? I highly Doubt it, especially since the words explicitly warn people not to change any words in the Bible. If anything were to be removed this would be one of the many, in order to manipulate the masses, but now since we have our own Bibles, we can read for ourselves the wonders of this life and the life to come, providing we believe and understand with our pee sized brains a glimpse of the Nature of a Wondrous and Good God.

^^^^WRONG

[beachguy in thongs]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew 10:34-36
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.





But before that, he warned his Apostles that "Brother will betray brother to death, fathers will betray their own children, and children will rise against their parents and cause them to be killed." Matthew 10:21

Which is true.

And right before that "sword" reference (Matthew 10:32, 33), Jesus says, "If anyone acknowledges me publicly here on earth, I will openly acknowledge that person before my Father in heaven. But if anyone denies me here on earth, I will deny that person before my Father in heaven."

So, take the end of the conversation and not the whole, and base Christ upon his words.

Even if Moses didn't exist, someone wrote those scriptures a thousand years before Christ. Ok, Moses told me it wasn't him, it was Elijah. I don't care if his name was Ben, they were written and Jesus Christ taught those words.

Back to the sword statement, in which after, he says (Matthew 10:39) "If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give it up for me, you will find it."

[beachguy in thongs]

I fucked that up ^ .

[Roadking]

Let's talk about Mary Magdalene....

If she was caught in the act of adultery and a group of men were about to stone her to death, where was the man she was caught with? why wasn't he about to be stoned?

[beachguy in thongs]

Have you mentioned that this book of Matthew's purpose is to show that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah the Jews had waited for since the Old Testament times?

Also, did you mention that your "sword" quote was only a pep talk to the Apostles?

[beachguy in thongs]

Hmm, I know nothing of Mary Magdalene, besides Full of Grace.

[ermitonto]

Have you mentioned that this book of Matthew's purpose is to show that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah the Jews had waited for since the Old Testament times?

No, and I don't see how that changes anything.

Also, did you mention that your "sword" quote was only a pep talk to the Apostles?

So? If Jesus told them not to think he is to send peace on Earth, then Jesus either (a) lied, breaking one of the Ten Commandments, or (b) came not to send peace on Earth. And besides, what does it matter if we know he murders innocent children and tells people to commit genocide? (he is the same thing as God, right? Or is he a different entity, or what...I've never gotten a straightforward answer to that). And what kind of a peaceful creature tells everybody to either believe in him or be tortured for all eternity? That's a pretty harsh threat from somebody who supposedly preaches peace and tolerance.

No matter how you look at it, someone who sends Jeffrey Dahmer to Heaven and Gandhi to Hell, who eternally tortures anyone who refuses to blindly believe things with no proof, who murders innocent children for the crimes of their parents and for making fun of bald people, who condones slavery, and who orders genocide to be carried out, has to be the cruelest being in the universe. How can such a being ever be worthy of worship? I'd rather worship Hitler.

[beachguy in thongs]

I don't believe in Hell, Ermontito.

Jesus said that's what people do. Brothers kill Brothers, Children disobey parents, and Spouses sleep around. He was telling them not to trust anyone, for they will be killed.

The prophecies of a Messiah caused an entire religion to want to get rid of one guy. If they were wrong about that "one guy" being Jesus Christ, than that's as bad as our nation executing the wrong guy for Ted Bundy's killings. The guy who really did it, is still on the loose. So is the real Jesus Christ. In fact, the real Jesus Christ is the guy who busted out the other Jesus Christ when he was entombed... :stoned: