I roll beautifully because I've rolled thousands of cigarettes after I started rollin' joints. I like a joint with about .5 in it, even amount of bud on the whole joint except for the very ends which are slightly thinner. A good joint is not too loose to prevent it runnin' up on ya, and not too tight so it doesn't hit. The shape, though, is up to the roller. Anybody put the joint in your mouth after rolling it to help it? I picked up the habit from a few of my old friends.