Osama bin Laden: A weapon of mass Convenience

[phareye]

[/QUOTE=Breukelen advocaat]He also did not do enough about terrorist, and military, attacks against U.S. interests, which may have helped set the stage for 9/11.[/QUOTE]

i personally was suprised to learn just how much was going on within the clinton whitehouse regarding bin laden specifically and terrorism in general. if you pick up a book like "ghost wars" (can't remember the author), or any other non-partisan look at the recent history of terrorism, i think you too would find out just how active clinton's staff was tracking and trying to kill bin laden.

phareye Reviewed by phareye on 10-31-2005. Osama bin Laden: A weapon of mass Convenience just roll out the boogey man to remind us how scared of freedom hating terrorists we are, while our own government has been destroying the constitution for nearly a century...slowly but surely... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamabinladen_wmc.html The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary - H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956) Osama Rating: 5

[phareye]

I didn't like Gore, and I now refuse to vote for people that are in favor of, or refuse to admit disagreement with, government and private affirmative action job polices based on race.

this is a whole other issue.
and what's worse: affirmative action or croney-ism?
gore and others support affirmative action. aside from anecdotal(sp) evidence, i haven't seen any proof that the anglos of this country are being disenfranchised. hell, man, where do you work? we had "the black guy" at the office, but he quit weeks ago. nothing but lily-white faces far as the eye can see...

besides, i'd rather have aff. action than this hiring of hacks we've been seeing in the bush admin.
political appointments are nothing new, but they get appointments slightly relevant to their exper., typically.
i'll refrain from listing the obvious and not-so-obvious political hacks in this admin...
unless, of course, someone wants to deny that this is what happens in the bush admin.
(heckuva job, brownie)
(miers will withdrawing because her lack of experience is becoming a distraction)
(those are the two most obvious ones... there are more examples avail.)

[phareye]

I disagree with some of the policies, tactics, and strategies of the Bush administration, but least he's doing something. Had we not, there probably would have been more attacks on American soil by now.

this is what bugs me out:
i don't neccessarily agree, but at least it's something.

that's a lazy attitude. this isn't a personal attack on you, BA, but please see where i'm coming from.

accepting something because it's the only course of action presented is selling yourself and your country short.

and the war isn't what's preventing attacks in the US. it's law enforcement, here, with minimal and questionable info coming from overseas, that's keeping us safe.

[Breukelen advocaat]

[QUOTE=phareye]this is a whole other issue.
and what's worse: affirmative action or croney-ism?
gore and others support affirmative action. aside from anecdotal(sp) evidence, i haven't seen any proof that the anglos of this country are being disenfranchised. hell, man, where do you work? we had "the black guy" at the office, but he quit weeks ago. nothing but lily-white faces far as the eye can see...QUOTE]

Affirmative action in the workplace (and in contracts, schools, etc.) , based on race, does a disservice to minorities - as well as being very unfair to the people that are excluded. Kerry knew this, but refused to talk about it because it's not politically correct and would have hurt his chances of getting the minority vote. There are also many unfair advantages given to women, parents, etc.

I really don't care much anymore about my own situation as far as this goes, since I plan to retire in a couple of years. I hope that future generations are not subjected to a lot of the crap that I, and others, had to put up with.

I will not support, or vote for, politicians that are pushing these destructive programs and laws. These policies are what get white people, especially men, pissed off ("Angry White Males") - and we end up voting for guys like Bush and Reagan. When it hits home, as it did in my life many times, you get fed up with the "liberals" (which they are really not) and Democrats. Why should I vote against my own best interests by supporting candidates that are pro-affirmative action?

If affirmative action was based on class, and not race, I would be much more open to it.

[lemonboy]

Affirmative action still exists because there are places and people that will not hire minorities without coercion. I live in the South and have to deal with this on a daily basis. The things that come out of the mouths of some of the people I know are just horrendous and there is no excuse for it.

I agree with you though, AA does everyone a huge disservice. I just don't see how something that is "policy" is supposed to change minds or make any difference in the long run. Obviously though, there is a need for some kind of dialogue in this area.

Your last paragraph really hit home with me. I personally know how tough it is to be a white man in America. I'm waiting for the day they ask me to use another water fountain. Oh, what dark times we live in. I'm just thankful for the war. Every day buses filled with poor, colored faces are carted down to the air-strip for deployment. I don't mind 'em fighting my war, I just don't want them takin' my job.

But, seriously. If you're a white man in America with a job that is about to retire it doesn't sound like you have much to be angry about. Casting votes for guys who would rather see them all hanging from trees on the lawn of the White House doesn't sound like much of a solution. Well, I guess it depends on who you ask.

[Breukelen advocaat]

, But, seriously. If you're a white man in America with a job that is about to retire it doesn't sound like you have much to be angry about. Casting votes for guys who would rather see them all hanging from trees on the lawn of the White House doesn't sound like much of a solution. Well, I guess it depends on who you ask.

Try asking the Democrats who are in bed with Al Sharpton (hint: the last couple of Presidential candidates) if they think that murdering Jews, which is what Sharpton indirectly does, is the better solution. I'm not Jewish, but seeing ANY innocent people getting lynched by a mob make me angry. I'll always vote against Democrats and others that kiss Sharpton's ass for endorsements, until they relinquish ties to that type of scum - and start trying to put an end to race-based affirmative action, and other ideas that do not work.