Lewis "scooter" Libby indicted.

[andruejaysin]

He's gonna sing like a canary. No way he's gonna do time, he'll give up The Dick.

[amsterdam]

i did watch and i must say i was quite impressed with the guy.

I do think the charges are very weak, and wont hold up. I hope he excepts a plea and takes his fine. Who knows or cares. This story will be over by Monday. Supreme court pick will overshadow this in HURRY.

[amsterdam]

In the end, all Fitzgerald accused Libby of was lying about his conversations with reporters, not outting a spy. Very weak.

[andruejaysin]

Very weak indead, 30 years worth of weak. Do you understand how federal time works? You have to do 85%, minus any good time lost for DRs, that means 25years, 6 months before he's eligable for parol. This case is gonna be tryed in DC, in front of a mostly black, all democrat jury. they'll convict him just for being a rich white man, same as he'd convict them for being a poor black man. One way or the other, he's gonna squeal like a pig.

[onwardthroughthefog]

I don't think Libby will sell out Dick Cheney, and he's the main person who could be hurt by a sell-out. They have been together since they worked together in the DOD under the first President Bush. I think he has tremendous loyalty to Cheney.

I see three options as possibilities....

1)A trial which could go either way, but no matter what the outcome, it damages the administration for a long time in terms of people feeling uncomfortable that they may be subpoened or included in ongoing investigations.

2)A plea bargain to a lighter sentence, but this is unlikely. I think Libby is a fighter and will not want to admit failure. Also, the prosecutor would be blasted publicly from both sides of the aisle for spending millions of dollars and then settling for less than a trial. It would be called a witch hunt instead of a prosecution.

3)Consider this.........a total pardon by President Bush before a trial could begin under the guise of saying it's in the best interest of national security and defense to not have our top secrets regarding entering the war made public. It could happen.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

He will plea bargain for sure, no doubt. you'll see.

Bush is no Clinton and he wont issue 150 pardons before he leaves office.

This story will be back page news next week. Even me, a republican was a little disappointed with the sleeper of an indictment.

All he is accused of is lying to a reporter,WOW, you mean to tell me it took 30 million dollars and 2 years for that?super duper!!

[onwardthroughthefog]

He will plea bargain for sure, no doubt. you'll see.

Bush is no Clinton and he wont issue 150 pardons before he leaves office.

This story will be back page news next week. Even me, a republican was a little disappointed with the sleeper of an indictment.

All he is accused of is lying to a reporter,WOW, you mean to tell me it took 30 million dollars and 2 years for that?super duper!!

Look back at the past....ALL presidents use pardons right before they leave. His dad did, Reagan did, Carter did.......it's not a bad thing. It's been going on for years. I guess they all felt it was okay after Ford pardoned Nixon.

As for the lying..he was actually charged with lying to the grand jury, not to reporters. I don't think he was lying to the reporters really, just leading them in the direction he wanted to them to go.

With this logic, all you could say Clinton is guilty of is bad aim, not lying in a deposition.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

hahaha,good one on the clinton zinger.

I know they all pardon people, however they all consult with the Justice Department before they do it. Clinton did not and pardoned people like Marc Rich and a bunch of people serving time for being the clintons fall guys in their numerous financial crimes.

[onwardthroughthefog]

hahaha,good one on the clinton zinger.

I know they all pardon people, however they all consult with the Justice Department before they do it. Clinton did not and pardoned people like Marc Rich and a bunch of people serving time for being the clintons fall guys in their numerous financial crimes.

I think you give past presidents a bit too much credit and perhaps Clinton too little credit. I don't think he was any less ethical than past presidents. Just had REALLY bad taste in women and very poor morals. But as for the pardoning thing, he was right up there with the rest, at least since the mid-70's.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

I dont hate the guy, i just think he is super rich white trash.

and as a republican i will say that i am praying Hillary runs, that will be soooooooooooooo fun.