I have both a P.H.X and a GEAR. The PHX Trinity is cool hard as hell to clean . GEAR is THE $HIT 5mm thick,ice pinch and it's cheap get one here BLUNT BROS :thumbsup:GEAR also has Diffuser&Ash Catcher cheaper than a roor :thumbsup: LOOK'S BETTER than a roor :thumbsup:is thicker than a roor :thumbsup: smaller size's roor the smallest is 14inches GEAR has one 12 inches the best one IMO GEAR 4 THUMBS UP:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: