OK so these are the last pics for 2 or 3 weeks now but they are looking good and these pics are 'dial up friendly' thhey wont take as long to load as my others I hope i water them when the pot feels light, you are right about covering the entire part of the soil which I havent been doing all the time, I poked a few holes in a bottle top so I can make sure to spread the water evenly.. Ok see you all next year