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    #21
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    Letter to Kerry

    You have people in all parties saying things like " I have smoked marijuana and I don't think it's a big deal". Or things like "I know marijuana is great for medicinal purposes". But then you have those same people when asked if they are in favor of legalization saying things like "No I don't think it should be legal but I don't think it should be considered a huge crime." So I don't see marijuana becomming legal ever. Atleast not in the next 50 years. So that will give enough time for the younger generations that aren't so uptight to get into congress and become leaders. That may be when things start to change in congress.

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    #22
    Senior Member

    Letter to Kerry

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones
    Slavery ended.
    Women won the right to vote.
    The Berlin Wall came down.

    Only a few years before each of these events,
    a majority of folks probably thought it would never happen.

    If George Washington had ever been asked if the Indian Hemp he so prized would ever be illegal, I'm sure he would have said it would never happen.

    It hasn't been illegal forever.
    Blacks and women were property for a lot longer.
    But abolitionists and suffragettes didn't give up.

    Marijuana prohibition in the U.S. is like communism in China -
    It's the last stand and it's dug in good,
    but the trend is against it, and eventually it will fall.

    -Sinse



    well said since

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    #23
    Senior Member

    Letter to Kerry

    If George Washington had ever been asked if the Indian Hemp he so prized would ever be illegal, I'm sure he would have said it would never happen.
    The word marijuana came from mexico. Is it seriously indian hemp? Because I heard that the first documented references to marijuana came from around Asia and Mexico.

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    #24
    Senior Member

    Letter to Kerry

    Sorry but I must follow Tokers lead

    People can read a little about hemp here..
    http://www.cannabis-assembly-mcr.tk/ (the servers a little slow sometimes, be patient)

    peace

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    #25
    Senior Member

    Letter to Kerry

    Quote Originally Posted by maryjanemama
    Hi, Toker, I checked out the Liberatarian homepage. I live in PA and I noticed it said that it is one of the 9 states where petitioning is currently underway to get the Lib Party on the ballot. I was confused because it also said that currently, 67 Libs hold public office in PA. Does that mean that the Lib party is not on the ballot yet for Presidential office? But on the ballot for state government? I honestly have never heard of Michael Badnarik until today. Isn't voting for him a little dangerous? Considering that it will take my vote away from Kerry and possibly giving Bush the lead? Lay it on me, Toker.
    Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. If you vote for someone you don't agree with, the message your sending is that you do agree with them. That's not a good thing to do in my opinion. A lot of people think their vote only counts if they vote for one of the two party's. That's not true. Wasting your vote is voting for someone you really don't want to lead this country.

    The LP is not on the ballot in every state, yet. Ballot access issues are issues the LP is very concerned about. The two major partys fight to make it as hard as possible for any other party to gain accress. To me the lower positions need to have more Libertarian minded people elected into those positions. Senetors, congressmen, state lawmakers, judges and so on are as importent, or more importent then the prez. Find your states LP, and see who is running near you, and see if you like them. Better yet, here ya go!

    http://www.lppa.org/

    The fact that your even intrested at all puts you quite a few steps ahead of the sheeple that believe they only have two choices or their wasting their vote. I hope you will take the time to investigate Libertarianism, and the LP further. You may not see Badnarik as a viable choice for prez, but you may find others localy that you do want to vote for.

    Well, I gotta head to the fireworks show. The kids are going crazy. Actualy it's me going crazy trying to keep them occupied until we go. Writing this has pretty much been my only real break today. On top of all the goings on around here, I've been hanging pretty hard all day. I guess ya gotta pay if ya wanna play.

    Toker

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    #26
    Senior Member

    Letter to Kerry

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones
    I voted Libertarian the first time I voted for President, way back in 1980. They are never a bad choice, but I lean more Green these days. However, I'd vote for a Republocrat who came out strongly for at least some substantial mj law reform.

    -Sinse
    I can't base my vote on MJ positions alone. I tend to look a little deeper then that. Don't get me wrong, I do take that into consideration. The Green Party is a wee bit socialist for me. I don't care to much for their tax the weed plan either. Another tax stamp for weed is not exactly my idea of a good plan. There are quite a few problems for me with the greens. Another is their plan to turn over control of the top 500 corps in the US to the public. Or in other words let the government take control of the operation of said coporations. What do you get when you merge corprate's and government? You can get facism, or communism. In the greens case it is more communist or socialist. They want the government to control the means of production. I think that a lot of people don't really know what they support by supporting the that.

    This is from their platform;

    "Reassert the public's right as owners of the electromagnetic spectrum used as broadcast airwaves to regulate their use in the public interest."

    Notice if you will how much they tend to use the "public intrest" ploy. It's never said that the public will not have any control, but that is what it would amount to if they gave all control of the media over to the government. Personaly, I don't think the government taking a firm control of the media is a good idea.

    Then there is the progressive taxation, or redistrabution of wealth. You could even call it stealing from the rich to give to the poor. A noble idea, but it's flawed to the core if your trying for equlity and Freedom. And that brings us to their "End Institutionalized Racism" by instituting more racism in government. The anti-discrimination, and affirmative action laws, programs, and enforcement reparations for African Americans, are racism. A country that is supposed to treat all the people equaly should not treat them differently and call it equal. Biased racism laws that only get inforced for one group, is not equality, and neither are progressive taxes. I could go on and on about the greens, but I think I'll quit picking on them for now.

    Here is their platform;
    http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html

    Synopsis of The Communist Manifesto
    http://www.indepthinfo.com/communist...synopsis.shtml

    What the hell, here is the The Communist Manifesto itself

    Bourgeois and Proletarians
    http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Arc...848-CM/cm1.txt

    II -- PROLETARIANS AND COMMUNISTS
    http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Arc...848-CM/cm2.txt

    III -- SOCIALIST AND COMMUNIST LITERATURE
    http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Arc...848-CM/cm3.txt

    Demonrats are not much different then the greens in their lust to create a socialist country out of the US. Keep in mind Hitler was a socialist, and we all know how the attempt in Russia turned out. We also have North Korea to look at. China, and Cuba too. There are others also, and they are all the same. Screwed!

    Toker

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