LOL! Well I grabbed all of your attention, huh? Yeah ZANDOR knows he stuff! I appreciate all of you, but I reallylove my Areocloner, TY Zandor!! I didn't really have much fun trying to get them postioned in a 5" pot with the little mess cup wrapped aROUND the clone. Any suggestions?? Also isn't there an Aero something, with 3"-5" pots that you can start an finish without moving them? BTW: Garden thanks for the advice on the bending, I broke acouple, but they're still alive. Guess I bent them a little too far!! Thanks everybody, but especially Zandor, garden, and Latewood an Ted Neugent!! Donnie