thought philosophy

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

the truth is not easy to accept, and i should shoot myself now so i dont tell...


the truth is hard to swallow... that reality is nothing. it is impossible to believe that we are nothingness, observing thoughts.

it cannot be accepted that everything we think, see, and feel are nothing more than thoughts.


no one wants to believe that if you put enough effort into a single thought that it can become real.


this is how reality started in the first place. the thoughts behind our very universe were given enough effort to become real.

The truth is what is perceived by you, and the majority.

The truth is not what you perceive because for in order for it be the truth you have to have at least one other person to agree it is the truth.

Sure, in your mind, you may KNOW something. But that means nothing. Nothing means something if you write nothing on paper and try to make it something.

But in the end the nothing that you made something will return to nothingness. The real truth is birth and the passing of your human vessel.

there is only one true truth, all others are lies created by the truth.


the one and only true truth is nothing.

nothing is the truth.

we ARE nothing, therefore we ARE the truth.

everything else is a lie which WE created.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

Woah. What a welcome to the Spirituality boards! Damn!

the truth is hard to swallow... that reality is nothing. it is impossible to believe that we are nothingness, observing thoughts.

it cannot be accepted that everything we think, see, and feel are nothing more than thoughts.


no one wants to believe that if you put enough effort into a single thought that it can become real.


this is how reality started in the first place. the thoughts behind our very universe were given enough effort to become real.

I totally agree. I'm in a physics class and the first day of the class he told us that none of us are real. We are all just thoughts. Everything we know, everything we touch, everything we see, everything we hear, everything we smell, and everything we taste are all thoughts. We only exist in each others' imaginations. Quite a lot to load an a 10th grader, eh? Well. According to The Buddha, I shouldn't believe anything unless it agrees with my mind. My mind agrees with that idea. What if I were to completely block out chocolate from my mind? What if I somehow tricked myself to see any amount of chocolate as a mint or something? In my mind, that chocolate would look, smell, and taste like a mint. And I'd have no idea that I'm wrong. Pretty deep stuff on these boards...

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

^^^ Okay I kinda lost myself there. In reality, that chocolate is a mint. To my mind, anyways. So what is really reality? Maybe reality is that someone's mind mixed up chocolate and mint somewhere? But how could it be reality if a thought can change it?

Ergo...Reality is only what we think...

*Head explodes*

[ermitonto]

I'd venture to say that there really is an objective reality outside our brains. Our perception, however, is our only means of obtaining knowledge about it. We can only know what our sensory organs tell us, and sometimes they can be tricked. But no matter how you perceive chocolate, the chocolate will still be chocolate in objective reality, whatever that is.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

What if in the objective reality that piece of chocolate is actually nothing? What if the objective reality is that we're all little balls of matter floating through nothingness and all we perceive is what we think?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I'd venture to say that there really is an objective reality outside our brains. Our perception, however, is our only means of obtaining knowledge about it. We can only know what our sensory organs tell us, and sometimes they can be tricked. But no matter how you perceive chocolate, the chocolate will still be chocolate in objective reality, whatever that is.

there is no reality. before that choclate's ingrediants came together, before it's ingrediants even existed, they were nothing, literally absolutely nothing, just as we all are. all is nothing, nothing is all. everything was nothing before effort was put into making them "something", which is still only the same nothing it was in the first place.

so anyways, because everything is the same nothing, anything can be anything a mind makes it be, even if only for that one mind. so there is no physical universal reality.

the universal reality? nothing.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

How do any of us know we're not talking to ourselves? How do I know you aren't all creations of my subconscious to keep me company???

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

easy. we are. we are all "individual" minds. or egos.


every "individual" person is only a percent of the one mind that we all ARE.


you do not have a mind of your own. "a mind of your own" is only an ego of THE mind.

so really, we're all just talking to our self.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

So does that mean that if there is a God, he is probably all the billions of consciousnesses that have ever lived, and that work together knowing they are all one?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

there is a "god" but not in the way most people would think.


all of us combined = god as he is commonly understood to be.

also, there are large spirits (or egos) that do not inhabit a body, which controll aspects of our universe, such as elements, and physics.