Express Yourself

[Torog]

Express Yourself

By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Oct 13, 2005

You can now open a business in the state of Oregon that includes live sex acts as part of your inventory. You might call it "Vinny's Deli and Sex Act Cabaret," or "Miss Sally's Spa and Kama Sutra Emporium." That's because the Oregon Supreme Court recently ruled 5 to 1 that telling a business it cannot have a live sexual exposition on its premises is a violation of freedom of expression under the Oregon Constitution.
Incredibly, the Oregon Supreme Court believes that the state or local governments have no right to limit sexual "expression" in a public place. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled time and again that authorities do have a right to regulate expression when it collides with public safety or community standards. You can't have sex on your front lawn even though you are "expressing" yourself on private property because that expression would violate a societal norm.

But the Oregon Supreme Court doesn't seem to care about society. That state now has doctor-assisted suicide (being challenged in the U.S. Supreme Court as we speak), some of the nation's most lenient drug laws including almost total access to medical marijuana (have a headache, forget aspirin, here's a brownie), and now live sex at a saloon near you.

But don't do any cigarette smoking in that saloon. That's been banned in Oregon, and it's also illegal to pump your own gas. Apparently, smoking and filling up your vehicle are not expressive enough for these dopey judges.

The driving force behind the sex in public deal was, no surprise, the ACLU, which filed a friend of the court brief egging the Oregon judges on. The ACLU is big on expression, as long as it doesn't involve singing Christmas carols. Yes, you do have this right: the ACLU is bullish on public displays of sex, but bearish on public displays of the baby Jesus.

A person from Lithuania might think this is a humor column, that I must be joking. I'm not. This is exactly what's going on in Oregon and with the ACLU.

I'm not analyzing this from a moral point of view; the live sex act thing isn't all that important, in the vast scheme of things. Nevada has legal prostitution in rural areas, and the state has not crumbled. But the perversion of Oregon's state constitution is troubling.

Freedom of expression as defined by the founding fathers is a concept subject to time, manner and place limitations. Laws against hate speech, disturbing the peace, public lewdness and scores of other "expressions" are enforced daily in order to impose some order in a nation of 300 million people. The judges in Oregon understand that, but don't like it - so they have decided to erase societal boundaries under the banner of freedom.

This is where the nation is headed under the secular-progressive jihad that is being waged all over America. With apologies to Home Depot, you can do it - the ACLU can help. It has been said that freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. But if we lose all standards of behavior, are we really free?

Torog Reviewed by Torog on 10-14-2005. Express Yourself Express Yourself By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com Thursday, Oct 13, 2005 You can now open a business in the state of Oregon that includes live sex acts as part of your inventory. You might call it "Vinny's Deli and Sex Act Cabaret," or "Miss Sally's Spa and Kama Sutra Emporium." That's because the Oregon Supreme Court recently ruled 5 to 1 that telling a business it cannot have a live sexual exposition on its premises is a violation of freedom of expression under the Oregon Rating: 5

[hempity]

Express Yourself

By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Oct 13, 2005

You can now open a business in the state of Oregon that includes live sex acts as part of your inventory. You might call it "Vinny's Deli and Sex Act Cabaret," or "Miss Sally's Spa and Kama Sutra Emporium." That's because the Oregon Supreme Court recently ruled 5 to 1 that telling a business it cannot have a live sexual exposition on its premises is a violation of freedom of expression under the Oregon Constitution.
Incredibly, the Oregon Supreme Court believes that the state or local governments have no right to limit sexual "expression" in a public place. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled time and again that authorities do have a right to regulate expression when it collides with public safety or community standards. You can't have sex on your front lawn even though you are "expressing" yourself on private property because that expression would violate a societal norm.

But the Oregon Supreme Court doesn't seem to care about society. That state now has doctor-assisted suicide (being challenged in the U.S. Supreme Court as we speak), some of the nation's most lenient drug laws including almost total access to medical marijuana (have a headache, forget aspirin, here's a brownie), and now live sex at a saloon near you.

But don't do any cigarette smoking in that saloon. That's been banned in Oregon, and it's also illegal to pump your own gas. Apparently, smoking and filling up your vehicle are not expressive enough for these dopey judges.

The driving force behind the sex in public deal was, no surprise, the ACLU, which filed a friend of the court brief egging the Oregon judges on. The ACLU is big on expression, as long as it doesn't involve singing Christmas carols. Yes, you do have this right: the ACLU is bullish on public displays of sex, but bearish on public displays of the baby Jesus.

A person from Lithuania might think this is a humor column, that I must be joking. I'm not. This is exactly what's going on in Oregon and with the ACLU.

I'm not analyzing this from a moral point of view; the live sex act thing isn't all that important, in the vast scheme of things. Nevada has legal prostitution in rural areas, and the state has not crumbled. But the perversion of Oregon's state constitution is troubling.

Freedom of expression as defined by the founding fathers is a concept subject to time, manner and place limitations. Laws against hate speech, disturbing the peace, public lewdness and scores of other "expressions" are enforced daily in order to impose some order in a nation of 300 million people. The judges in Oregon understand that, but don't like it - so they have decided to erase societal boundaries under the banner of freedom.

This is where the nation is headed under the secular-progressive jihad that is being waged all over America. With apologies to Home Depot, you can do it - the ACLU can help. It has been said that freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. But if we lose all standards of behavior, are we really free?

the live sex act thing isn't all that important


is a true statement.
to base so much importance on it is sad, and you waste precious time the Creator gave you.
some folks centre their whole lives on whether they want to lick carpet or reach around each other, it is ridiculous and very sad to base your lives on this, there is so much more to life.
you honestly want the government in your bedroom even if your bedroom is open to the public?
i think you can get a legal blow job in oregon also, no where else in yank-land can you, it's sodomy for most of you, even if they didn't charge clinton with it, it is still an ill-eagle.
your sex life must be really boring, try a little tender nibbling or stroking, maybe that will liven it up.


it is also a better thing to go watch, then spend hours watching people killing and maiming each other, even if they are doing it for God.

[nicholasstanko]

Torog, what's your point?

Why is it wrong for adults to go and be entertained or pleasured at their discretion? I just don't get it...and that point about medical marijuana...I dont know where to begin.

[Tholiak]

Torog, what's your point?

Why is it wrong for adults to go and be entertained or pleasured at their discretion? I just don't get it...and that point about medical marijuana...I dont know where to begin.

You obviously dont know anything about this case, it spurred from a Oregon town wanting to Ban stripping in their town, They passed a law, then it was overturned by the Supreme Court in oregon, saying Adults can have sex anywhere they want, be it on public property like a school, or in a stripclub.

All it basically boils down to is Liberals (the SC judges) passing their Moraless views on People

[dirtyhippy420]

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I don't see anywhere here that this is "subject to time, manner and place limitations." Maybe that's something Bill would like to add to the constitution. In my humble opinion (which is worth as much as Mr. O'Riley's, that is to say it's only worth shit) that one should challenge "societal norm(s)" everyday. Some people feel that the have a right not to be offended, all I can say to you is: Quit being a bunch of whiny pussies and get over yourselves! Do you really think that your insistence that everyone should conform to your nineteenth century views is just? You're so complacent in your comfort zones that you'll subjugate your views on the rest of society. Why should those who want to keep moving forward be impeded? Why don't you kick start your ass and move into the next century. If you want to live in the past get a job as a re-enactor. Don't be so concerned on were we can be, focus on where we could be.

[mikeandjenherbals]

Torog, you are an odd one, not that odd is bad, I was wondering where you get your info, 2, would youseek out any other opinion or source other than your own or do you go around with an open mind? 3, Is everyone in a box ie, red state blue state? 4, how do you describe your own box? peace thru herb .. mike

[Torog]

Torog, what's your point?

Why is it wrong for adults to go and be entertained or pleasured at their discretion? I just don't get it...and that point about medical marijuana...I dont know where to begin.

Howdy nicholas,

My point is,is that I don't want America to be turned into a place,where debauchery reigns un-checked, I want America to be a better place for my daughter and all of our children,than when I finally git called home to God. If yer not a parent,you may not understand. I'm all for freedom of speech,but at some point,we have to grow up and be role models for our children. Do you really want to go into a doughnut shop and have a live sex show to watch with yer mornin coffee and donuts ? How about a live sex show in the back of the toy store ? Society has to draw the line somewhere at what's acceptable and not,in the public square.

Have a good one ...

[Torog]

the live sex act thing isn't all that important


is a true statement.
to base so much importance on it is sad, and you waste precious time the Creator gave you.
some folks centre their whole lives on whether they want to lick carpet or reach around each other, it is ridiculous and very sad to base your lives on this, there is so much more to life.
you honestly want the government in your bedroom even if your bedroom is open to the public?
i think you can get a legal blow job in oregon also, no where else in yank-land can you, it's sodomy for most of you, even if they didn't charge clinton with it, it is still an ill-eagle.
your sex life must be really boring, try a little tender nibbling or stroking, maybe that will liven it up.


it is also a better thing to go watch, then spend hours watching people killing and maiming each other, even if they are doing it for God.

Howdy hempity,

Like I told nicholas,I simply want America to be a good and decent place to raise our children..I don't want to go overboard and stifle free speech..but why should parents have to explain to their children,what a live sex show is and why there's one in the back of the toy store or the donut shop. It was bad enuff,during Clinton,that millions of parents had to explain to their children,what oral sex is..when those children should not even be thinking about sex at their age. America,does not need to devolve to the level of european countries,in order to protect 'free speech'..we should be good role models for our children,not shoving sex into their faces,at every turn.

Have a good one ...

[litespeed]

Torog:
How else can Oregon disrupe the Supreme Court and keep it from the thing's it to do. and mess over bush and Co.
just keep piling it on and S C will be over loaded and out of the way others.

[nicholasstanko]

Howdy nicholas,

My point is,is that I don't want America to be turned into a place,where debauchery reigns un-checked, I want America to be a better place for my daughter and all of our children,than when I finally git called home to God. If yer not a parent,you may not understand. I'm all for freedom of speech,but at some point,we have to grow up and be role models for our children. Do you really want to go into a doughnut shop and have a live sex show to watch with yer mornin coffee and donuts ? How about a live sex show in the back of the toy store ? Society has to draw the line somewhere at what's acceptable and not,in the public square.

Have a good one ...

that's exactly what parenting is, torog. it's your duty as a responsible parent to take a few minutes out of your day to talk to your kids about how you feel and how THEY feel, not just assume you're doing the best thing for them by censoring stuff from them.

sex is human nature. do you think by stopping your son from watching porn, he's less likely to jerk off? by stopping him from smoking, he's not gonna sneak and do it?

i highly doubt anyone is going to run a sex toy store (for kids that is ) and if its in a coffee shop, then of course there's age restrictions.


roman citizens lived on orgies and debauchery, it wasnt because of that that the society collapsed. it was when the government decided they would take more control and police its own citizens.


you want to protect your kids, then concentrate on what the government is doing, not what john doe spoogemeyer is getting off on over a cappucino.




lets roll