Quote Originally Posted by seedbare
The people of the usa are for the most part comfortable and complacent this is a different america then of the past, what we have is a demoralized population that really does not care about anything other then there own narrow wants and needs. like a rich brat.

while driving through new mexico I was stopped by border patrol officers (no where close to the border) they asked to searched the vehicle, I refused, they then explained that they were part of "homeland security" and under the patriot act, they needed no reason other than suspicion to search a vehicle. I still refused stating that I did not believe that to be true. I was then detained physically searched. they proceded to search the vehicle for and hour and a half and found nothing. I then was given my belongings and let go. This is the stalin like environment we are living in today. what a great lesson that was, now I know the govt. is the enemy, there far worse then an enemy to go to war with, they have already won, and there is nothing anybody will bother to do.
So, refusal to give concent is probable cause? The terroists have won,the constitution now means nothing. Sue them for 6 trillion dollars, but the key is to name GW and the dick personally, they should pay for their crimes.