Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
I gave an example of AVOIDING violence by defusing a potential altercation, and you don't approve.

I do not know what racial, financial, social, ethnic background or region you originally come from but you despise Western civilization, both the bad AND good. I submit that you are denying your own background due to self-hatred, resentment, and the whole Vietnam War protest era. You are a man with many unresolved issues. A non-Indian can imitate the Native Americans but can not, and never will be able to, be one of them - unless he was born and raised among them.

If you think that the Native Americans were, or are, perfect, you are mistaken. There are admirable, and despicable, things about them just like everyone else that is human.

If you look at it objectively, all humans were "Noble Savages" at one time, and most changed ?? sometimes for the better. The Native Americans HAD to change, sooner or later, because it is human nature. Otherwise, they??ve had died out, with our without the help of others. Hopefully, some of the ??Noble? parts will remain with their culture, and be reintroduced to other groups ?? particularly with regards to respect and upkeep for our planet.

I have been subjected to discrimination, affirmative action injustices, illnesses, unemployment, problems with my own race (including family and friends), and things that are too lengthy and morbid to even write about. I don't drink myself into a stupor, and certainly would not start under any circumstances. The chronic alcohol problem that many Native Americans have is far more responsible for their situations than those caused by American society.
Whoa... I agreed with what you were saying until you said "that many Native Americans have is far more responsible for their situations than those caused by American society." And who do you think GAVE alcohol to the Natives? While it's true that Native American history and culture is still viewed through the 19th century concept of the Noble Savage, you still can't deny the fact that early traders used alcohol knowingly in order to get better deals on trades and making the Natives dependant of the stuff.