Dutch to ban burka.

[Torog]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...823334,00.html

I would advise anybody that is casually scanning these posts to skip the sick replies and read the article that started this thread (above). The REAL "freedom-haters" are the Islamists, and they are NOT going to win a war against Western Civilization anytime soon. This is clearly evident when the Netherlands, probably the most liberal country in the world, is taking preventative measures against terrorism and other violent extremism. We love freedom, and their religion mandates the destruction of it. We will prevail, and whatever steps must be taken to assure this will hopefully be realized very soon.

Howdy Breukelen,

Exactly...you hit the nail on the head.

Another reason to ban burka's,is that homicide bombers,males,have used them as a disguise to look like women,in order to carry their insidious plans out.

Have a good one ...

Torog Reviewed by Torog on 10-15-2005. Dutch to ban burka. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1823334,00.html I gotta say,this is a pretty bold move that will be met with great anger by the religon of peace.The Dutch are smart. Rating: 5

[Psycho4Bud]

the burka is not just a religious item it is a way to dress to be protected from harsh elements, to ban it because you think it is a horrible practice is a bit scary, you might think eating frog is horrible, and then where would all the frenchmen get the spring in their step.

how can you have freedom of religion in one hand, and then tell it, or set limitations on it in the other?

I'm sure the Dutch sandstorms warrent the use of having to wear a Burka.

[amsterdam]

whatever. I just thought the dutch were smart,and they dont give a shit what anyone is gonna say

[nicholasstanko]

Yeah, and so are the people that complain about "police brutality", discrimination, housing, etc., lol! What goes around, comes around.

like i said before, i dont need the police to protect me. but when they insinuate themselves to do a job i can easily take care of myself and they abuse that power, im going to speak out.


you're insane if you try to compare police burtality to dodgeball.



pansy

[Breukelen advocaat]

like i said before, i dont need the police to protect me. but when they insinuate themselves to do a job i can easily take care of myself and they abuse that power, im going to speak out.
pansy

â??Pansyâ?�? Didnâ??t that phrase go out in about 1948? There seems to be a slight cultural lag in the Great White North.

If you were forced to go three rounds with the world's heavyweight boxing champion, or one of the top ten contenders, how would you do? How about five rounds against the middleweight champ?

An educational system that includes dodge ball, in the required curriculum, is sick - especially in the inner cities. It shows how stupid teachers can be. They would not let a 150 lb. 5th grader throw the projectile against a 4th grader of ANY size, but will allow him or her to slam a 75 lb. kid in their own grade level â?? as long as it wasnâ??t THEIR kid.

We learned, at a young age, that you couldnâ??t take all of the authoritiesâ?? rules as absolute â?? so you learned to work around some.

The last time I had a confrontation with some asshole in the street that was acting threateningly towards me, he ended up running away and fumbling with his cell phone to call the police on ME.

I would guess that all of the â??regularsâ?� on the Politics forum of this website are peaceful people â?? but some do not understand how un-peaceful much of the worldâ??s population is. They are in denial about it, and the next wake-up call that they are likely to receive will not be from the cops.

[andruejaysin]

Hopefully, they will now prohibit the wearing of the cross, one stupid superstition deserves as much respect as another.

[F L E S H]

the burka is not just a religious item it is a way to dress to be protected from harsh elements, to ban it because you think it is a horrible practice is a bit scary, you might think eating frog is horrible, and then where would all the frenchmen get the spring in their step.

how can you have freedom of religion in one hand, and then tell it, or set limitations on it in the other?

LOL

You still don't understand me. I want no religion at all, not freedom of religion. I can only dream, I know...

[nicholasstanko]

â??Pansyâ?�? Didnâ??t that phrase go out in about 1948? There seems to be a slight cultural lag in the Great White North.


If you were forced to go three rounds with the world's heavyweight boxing champion, or one of the top ten contenders, how would you do? How about five rounds against the middleweight champ?

An educational system that includes dodge ball, in the required curriculum, is sick - especially in the inner cities. It shows how stupid teachers can be. They would not let a 150 lb. 5th grader throw the projectile against a 4th grader of ANY size, but will allow him or her to slam a 75 lb. kid in their own grade level â?? as long as it wasnâ??t THEIR kid.

We learned, at a young age, that you couldnâ??t take all of the authoritiesâ?? rules as absolute â?? so you learned to work around some.

The last time I had a confrontation with some asshole in the street that was acting threateningly towards me, he ended up running away and fumbling with his cell phone to call the police on ME.

I would guess that all of the â??regularsâ?� on the Politics forum of this website are peaceful people â?? but some do not understand how un-peaceful much of the worldâ??s population is. They are in denial about it, and the next wake-up call that they are likely to receive will not be from the cops.

Why do you think you scared that guy off? you suffered as a kid, but in the end it made you tougher.

thats what dealing with adversity is about. look at our school systems now. theyr pathetic. playgrounds look like fucking polyurethane boxes nowadays because noone wants their kid to have a scraped knee.

parents are too scared to spank their kids because they would rather be buddies than role models.

im not sending my kid to any school that doesnt have bullies and for goddamn good reason. you have to learn about when to stand up or when to fold up. if my son comes in with a bloody nose, then he's going to clean up and march his ass right back to school the next day. and he'll come home with a bloody nose until he puts a stop to it.


you support killing iraqis, but what would you do if somehow an army came to america? say twenty years from now? would you rahter have your kid picking up a rifle and getting to it, or asking uncle sam to give em a time out.



lets roll

[Breukelen advocaat]

Why do you think you scared that guy off?
Because I was in a good mood, and didn't want to lose it.

you suffered as a kid, but in the end it made you tougher.
True, but it's not an ideal way to have to live.

thats what dealing with adversity is about. look at our school systems now. theyr pathetic. playgrounds look like fucking polyurethane boxes nowadays because noone wants their kid to have a scraped knee. parents are too scared to spank their kids because they would rather be buddies than role models. im not sending my kid to any school that doesnt have bullies and for goddamn good reason. you have to learn about when to stand up or when to fold up. if my son comes in with a bloody nose, then he's going to clean up and march his ass right back to school the next day. and he'll come home with a bloody nose until he puts a stop to it.
Then you should teach him to fight, or send him to classes for boxing, or martial arts, etc

you support killing iraqis
I never said that I was, or was not, in favor of the Iraq war.

, but what would you do if somehow an army came to america? say twenty years from now? would you rahter have your kid picking up a rifle and getting to it, or asking uncle sam to give em a time out.
I do not have kids. I do not believe in the draft, but if I did (have a son), and he joined the armed forces, I would expect him to do his duty.

lets roll

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[hempity]

I was just making a point that Nick's dismissing of the abuses and racial antagonisms of some youth, against others, does not take into consideration that this is one of the reasons why their behavior comes back to haunt them later on.

People that have been injured (Iâ??m not talking about the police), physically and otherwise (and I HAVE been in both respects), are far more likely to strike back. If somebody targets me, in the streets or wherever, they ALWAYS back off when they see my expression and/or body language - not to mention the things that I say, lol. Sorry, but that's the way I survived here. When you tell somebody that you will kill them, and they know that you mean it, these cowards will back off â?? even if they are bigger, armed with a weapon (not a gun), etc. Thatâ??s survival in the streets, and if our leaders understood this, weâ??d have far less to worry about. Unfortunately, they donâ??t know how to handle terrorists, and the do-gooders would rather we all die than protect ourselves. I learned a long time ago that cowards, which all predators are, do not go after crazy people.

You are kidding yourself if you think that by removing the police we would be safer. This is absurd.

If you could be a little more specific as to the circumstances of the police injuring you, maybe it would make more sense â?? because some of us have not had this experience. Iâ??m not saying it didnâ??t happen, but we donâ??t know what your experience was. Iâ??ve gotten ticketed a few times for smoking in the wrong place, and spoken to nastily, but thatâ??s about it.

I have had a lot more trouble with people than cops, and I think that many would say the same. Some people actually deserve what they get, but you donâ??t seem to think that justice ever prevails. Well, I've accepted the fact that it doesn't always happen, there are some bad people everywhere and always will be, and try to work around it. Sorry for your problem, whatever it was. I've been badly hurt also. As the old military saying goes, "That which does not kill you, makes you stronger".

doesn't seem from Nic's posts that he dismisses much, seems to hear me quite clear even wanting his future kids to hear me, children hear me very clear, and i want them to, i say good things.
natives call me "crazy upright", crazy because i am in the world of the spirit more than i am here, upright, to remind me to stand straight and proud, to show children how a man stands.

can't see your expression nor your body language from here, and the things you say do scare me, but only with the amount of ignorance you defend.
not all predators are cowards, some are real hungry, all bullies are cowards, but that's just because they are afraid.



a type of enforcement is needed in a society, i don't want to have to worry about the women and children i cannot protect, but really, even you can see that the current policing polices don't work. police are hired for muscle and loyalty to the owners. why not hire them for intelligence and compassion instead. the amount of ordinances and laws you try to get them to enforce is absurd.
i would bet my bottom dollar that there were more than 10,000 laws and amendments to laws past in yank-land this year, california might have had that many alone.

don't have the time to tell you about more than one, but here goes.
coming out of a party of a hundred friends upon the police who had pulled over a friend coming to the party. first they asked him for his licence, after he pulled it out of his wallet, they asked for insurance, he produced that, all the while they were berating him for being a hippie and threatening to straighten him out. when they saw his dog sleeping in the back of his van the young bully asked for his dog licence, before producing it he said "oh fuck" under his breath, the bully pulled him from the car and slammed his light weight ass on the asphalt and proceeded to hand cuff him for obscene language. i walked up and told the bully that this was unnecessary and told my friend he did not have to go to jail, one of the bullies from the pack (they had called back-up by then) jumped on my back, my body reacted and five bullies were hurt, not badly, after more back-up and a beating i will never forget we were taken to jail, stripped and fire-hosed for a while.
in court no one would admit to arresting me, (i was well known in town as a peaceful and gentle man), so the judge fined me fifty dollars for disturbing the peace.
#1

i wouldn't need odds on you having trouble with people unless they thought like you.
justice in your country goes to the highest bidder, bad people are just real frightened or have been treated real badly and don't know any difference. i am not sorry for my problems, don't you be, they made me what i am, and i like that. i don't believe your old military any more than i believe you. i think you can beat a dog or man so many times for so many reasons, they either jump up and rip out your black heart, or lay down and die.