LED grow lights... input please.

[SnSstealth]

good info on there hatch....after this grow, when we can see what missing per se....we will be adding supplemental lighting probably...

[Opie Yutts]

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Funny facts wind power, photo cells have yet to make ONE CENT.


Yeah wind & solar power don't workostexcuseme:

people are living off of the grid just fine...

One of my dads good friends lives where there is no power, so he doesn't have a choice. Invested about $12 grand in solar and runs everything just fine. It's not perfect, like he has to turn lights off when they're not being used, but we all should try to do that.

True, he's not exactly making any money from it, but he doesn't spend money on power either, so it's kinda like making money. It's kinda funny that if he were to move 10 miles in either direction and triple, or maybe only double his initial investment, he could be selling power to the electric company. That, I think would be making money. Why doesn't everybody over there do that? Oh yeah, maybe they don't have $36,000 laying around.

[Opie Yutts]

I have ejoyed this led thing and its something to do. Now think, if leds worked , industry would be doing it.
Industry wants the most light for the least cost. Industry wants the most light and lower replacment cost. Industry would stand to gain tillions of dollars saved. And industry still uses 48 in florsents, metal halide and hps.
Funny facts wind power, photo cells have yet to make ONE CENT. :yippee:The average loss is 14-25 cents per kwh. (thanks to the poor people trying to save money)(forget the inviromental problems)
Once again OHMS and WATTS wins, and the poor pay.
Note sky lab florsent lights, even they can not efford leds. They can, but not cost effective. Flat panel florsent lighting. Note they have a $10,000 a pound lift off weight cost:jumphappy:, even at that, its not cost effective. Mars systems cost are more and leds cant make it.
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Wow, I just read this again.

What a load of negative horse hockey.

Man I hate half-truths and misinformation presented as indisputable fact. When you're spewing all this ridiculous nonsense, it might behoove you to keep in mind that industry is using LED. A lot. All over the place. More and more. Read up a touch before leading the sheep. They can't help it, some of them might believe you.

[tomtomgrow]

sorry...new to this thread...think it has amazing info...two questions...one, can one use led in s.o.g and second, is a mix of hps and led better for yeilds then hps alone???

[denial102]

Wow, I just read this again.

What a load of negative horse hockey.

Man I hate half-truths and misinformation presented as indisputable fact. When you're spewing all this ridiculous nonsense, it might behoove you to keep in mind that industry is using LED. A lot. All over the place. More and more. Read up a touch before leading the sheep. They can't help it, some of them might believe you.

haha yeah, nasa is using it, along with the mercury lights..

[hatch]

Yes, The spectrum would be in a closer range if you add some colour with LED's to help supplement light with your HPS. Later

[oldsanclem]

IF leds were a usable , industry would have had them years ago.
They have more to gain than a pot grower, Brillioins of $ would be saved IF they were usable. Yes there are a few desk lights that have leds, but, does industry use them. GE,Siemens,AG,Silvainia(sp) have some of the best engeers going. I can only hope pot growers can prove them wrong. Wind power, solar cells (subsidies pay 14-25 cents per kwh to cover cost rich get richer poor get poorer:wtf,bio fuels (consumes more power than they net rich get richer poor get poorer:wtf:, battery power (1919 2007 80 miles to a charge almost 90 years later net gain 0,, ZERO net:wtf , Someday they will make,leds output to cost ratio:thumbsup:.
Believe me I am all for new things, my system is automated, remote control.
This thread is how old and not yet has one person come up with watts/grams/month
NOTE if you do make it work, you will make more from GE, Seimans than you will ever make from growing pot.

[Blumen]

I don't wonder why e.g. philips isn't too keen of LEDs as a general lighting...they sell lightbulbs, CFL and HID, which need replacement...over and over again. Other industries don't switch over because of high initial cost (lose money now, stocks go down, unhappy stock owners, big no-no).
The initial cost is the same problem that home growers have isn't it? So there is a bit more to it than just "they don't use it, it can't be good."

It has been done here with a couple of mistakes (no training, "killed" LED plant with HPS harvest water shortage?), but still.

[SnSstealth]

Im not tryin to pitch my thread on someone elses...but dude i AM growing with LEDs...they have made 2 now for growing, and all our traffic lights here are LED...the indoor lighting at the hospital my wife works at are.......yup LED. so dont talk about them not getting integrated into society....and its only happening more

[Opie Yutts]

sorry...new to this thread...think it has amazing info...two questions...one, can one use led in s.o.g and second, is a mix of hps and led better for yeilds then hps alone???

Yes you can use LEDs for SOG.

Yes a mix of HPS and LED is better than HPS alone, but only if you don't sacrifice some HPS watts to do it. If you need to, then stick with HPS for another 3 years.