OK, khronik, if LEDs work so well, you show me pix of an LED grow that's doing as well as an HPS op with all other conditions right.

They just don't make the luminous output needed- this is why LED grows look like they've been left in the dark, because in comparison to what the plant needs, that's ostensibly what it's getting.

You won't mind if I don't chug Jack Daniels by the case while I'm waiting for pix of those forearm sized colas, willya?

I'm all for new tech. LEDs will get there- but they are not there yet. Give it 5 years and we'll talk again.

Mind you, I'm not taking YOU to task- only LED grow lighting technology.