LED grow lights... input please.

[sheist]

who do you represent?

[sheist]

but i have seen blue leds for sale elsewhere.. i'm not questioning the patent, i'd care less of it, as long as my flowers bloom.. i was soo hyped up actually, on the fact that they sell LEDs in the specific spectral ranges.. but then i came to find out that there are specific lights do the same thing, cus its all about the spectrum.. but i do wanna try out LEDs tho, just gettin up the fundin first

[sheist]

now in theatre, on the spotlights they have color screens, to allow only one color light show... since the plant needs red sprectrum, can't we use a red color screen?? they're the same screens used in the 3-d disney movies that come out in the theatre wit the red n blue movie goggles.. they filter out all other colors that only red or blue comes out.. can't we do the same with the plants??



the way i see it.. say we have a fullspectrum cfl tube.. can't we use the screen over it to make sure only the desired color range is discharged??

[ledgrower]

yea... u can buy leds in just about any specific spectral ranges.. shit u can even buy leds from radio shack..Im represent the light bar by SolarOasis..im just getting into this market of the home Hobbiest although it is goin to have a bad image for the golbal market. i will just have to be descrit about it if you know what i mean. This product will soon will change the whole industry. look for a website soon pc... i need some sleep


for your question about screens...why would u do that...u have en idea how much a screen for a movie theatre would cost..how would u use it.. i mean... from a HSP bulb u dont see blue or red lights..or anyother color in that matter but the white..and in that light contains the spectrum that plants need..its just that is not eficient enough. over 75% of power goes to heat and some of those bulbs would have to be replaced every 3 to 4 months..with leds you can get the Exact spectoral light that is proven to let plants grow..

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sheist: Would that actually convert all the wavelengths of light being emitted to the red part of the spectrum? I'm not so sure about that. I think what happens is that being a filter it only allows the red light to pass through, thus eliminating the rest of the spectrum emitted. Actually I am pretty sure that is how it works.

ledgrower: Can you tell me what the dimensions on the grow bar? I couldn't find that info anywhere on the site. Also, does the new grow bar have more led's or is there something else different about it? Would you mind posting the information contained in the pending Patent? The site is lacking in specifics about the products. It would be nice to see a specs page with for one thing growth comparisons between LED, HID, Flouro, and Sunlight (that would actually be pretty cool to see that up there.) The results vs Sunlight would blow the LED's away (as per some experiment I read recently sorry no link,) but the results vs. other types of lighting would do a lot to get indoor growers excited about using this new application for this technology. What is your position at SolarOasis?

As for not being able to figure out how it is done... I'm sure you know that ALL details of a process must be in the patent application. The point of the patent is to protect (for a period of years) the investment of the inventor so that he/she/it may recoup and profit from an idea while allowing for technological progress to occur. At the time of issuance of the patent the information on exactly how to reproduce the technology (sans design specifics which are usually covered by a trademark or design patent) become public knowledge and free to acquire. It is still illegal for the public to reproduce the technology until expiration of the patent but at that time all someone needs is the patent contents and suitable technical knowledge to duplicate the technology/ies.

Secret formulas are another issue not covered by patents as patents are public information. Secret formulas must be kept secret. As far as I know you can't patent a recipe anyway.


If anyone that have been reading this has any knowledge of cannabis specific wavelength responses it would be awesome to see them up here. I'm pretty sure that all the wavelengths mentioned so far while being usable with cannabis were tested on other plants. Since all plants have different specific requirements that information would be very useful to thouse seeking to implement this technology with the growth of cannabis (in spain :dance:f course.)

[ledgrower]

thats the whole point though...Secret formulas u wouldnt want to patent cuz well they wouldnt be sercret nemore..the new bar has just as many lights as the original but there just designed and built differently...

[sheist]

for your question about screens...why would u do that...u have en idea how much a screen for a movie theatre would cost..how would u use it.. i mean... from a HSP bulb u dont see blue or red lights..or anyother color in that matter but the white..and in that light contains the spectrum that plants need..its just that is not eficient enough. over 75% of power goes to heat and some of those bulbs would have to be replaced every 3 to 4 months..

the theatrical screens I was talkin about were the thin sheets of plastic they put in front of the spot light.. who said i'd have to pay? (already ran to a theatre backstage and grabbed a bunch) I don't have an idea on how much they cost but I'm guessin they're free 8-)

the reason for using the screen is the funding.. i'm not established yet to bang out a couple LED bulbs and all that.. my idea was to get the CFLs and screen the plants, instead of the bulbs, cus this way the heat is still evenly dispersed around the box, instead of concentrated at the fixture till the bulb blows.. put it over/around the plants and let the specific lights in..

I think what happens is that being a filter it only allows the red light to pass through, thus eliminating the rest of the spectrum emitted. Actually I am pretty sure that is how it works

THAT's wat i was trying to ask.. but I'm questioning the correlation between color screens and the spectrum, will i jus get red light? or will the wavelength be present with it??

If anyone that have been reading this has any knowledge of cannabis specific wavelength responses it would be awesome to see them up here. I'm pretty sure that all the wavelengths mentioned so far while being usable with cannabis were tested on other plants. Since all plants have different specific requirements that information would be very useful to thouse seeking to implement this technology with the growth of cannabis (in spain f course.)

For the production of chlorophyll, and an optimum photosynthetic reaction, light from the blue spectrum (445 nanometers), and light from the red spectrum (650 nanometers) is necessary. Blue light ensures optimal phototropism. Phototropism is the phenomenon which causes plants to grow towards the light, and to spread their leaves in such a way to receive the most light.

[ledgrower]

To be honest bud....i dont have a clue if putting a screen over a light changes the specrum....That like puting colored seranrap over a flashlight when i was a kid./;well il see what i can find out... pc

[ledgrower]

what kind of bulb were u thinkin of using?? hps...??

[sheist]

CFLs and maybe a HPS later..