LED grow lights... input please.

[Opie Yutts]

IF leds were a usable , industry would have had them years ago.

Oh my fucking goodness. I can't believe I'm reading this crap again. You are just plain wrong in your assumptions. Have you ever studied LED's? Have you ever picked up a recent book, or taken a recent LED class?

Once again folks:

INDUSTRY IS USING LEDs NOW!!! There would not be soooo many companies using LEDs if it did not make financial sense. Look dipstick, the reason they weren't being used years ago is because they were not invented yet. It's kinda hard to use something that has not been experimented with, studied, worked with and changed so that it is viable, until it becomes viable. Revolutions in the industry that make LEDs usable and economically viable have only come about in the past couple 3 years, so of course they weren't real popular years back. Neither was a flu vaccine or air conditioning, but that doesn't mean it's senseless to use it today. Get an F'n clue.

[SnSstealth]

if ignorance is bliss................

[hatch]

Oh my fucking goodness. I can't believe I'm reading this crap again. You are just plain wrong in your assumptions. Have you ever studied LED's? Have you ever picked up a recent book, or taken a recent LED class?

Once again folks:

INDUSTRY IS USING LEDs NOW!!! There would not be soooo many companies using LEDs if it did not make financial sense. Look dipstick, the reason they weren't being used years ago is because they were not invented yet. It's kinda hard to use something that has not been experimented with, studied, worked with and changed so that it is viable, until it becomes viable. Revolutions in the industry that make LEDs usable and economically viable have only come about in the past couple 3 years, so of course they weren't real popular years back. Neither was a flu vaccine or air conditioning, but that doesn't mean it's senseless to use it today. Get an F'n clue.

Hey brother thats why you have those headaches!! High Blood Pressure!!
Don't worry about the hater's, They will want to be your best freind in a short bit-of-time, When they are way behind.
Hey that rhymed. ( Opie ) Check out the new trick you learnt'me.
Where is a thread we can bullshit? I want to ask you some stuff about your headaches. Later

[hatch]

Hear is a Qoute from a PHILIPS Rep.(In LED MAG.) LED COMING SOON!!! Aquarium, Horticulture, General Lighting.

WE have been Working on our LED arrays for the past 3 years to ensure we have the correct OUTPUT for each application. Qoute:Qoute, KURE'WAKE!!!! Kuwacha crack. Later

[SnSstealth]

IF leds were a usable , industry would have had them years ago.
They have more to gain than a pot grower, Brillioins of $ would be saved IF they were usable. Yes there are a few desk lights that have leds, but, does industry use them. GE,Siemens,AG,Silvainia(sp) have some of the best engeers going. I can only hope pot growers can prove them wrong. Wind power, solar cells (subsidies pay 14-25 cents per kwh to cover cost rich get richer poor get poorer:wtf,bio fuels (consumes more power than they net rich get richer poor get poorer:wtf:, battery power (1919 2007 80 miles to a charge almost 90 years later net gain 0,, ZERO net:wtf , Someday they will make,leds output to cost ratio:thumbsup:.
Believe me I am all for new things, my system is automated, remote control.
This thread is how old and not yet has one person come up with watts/grams/month
NOTE if you do make it work, you will make more from GE, Seimans than you will ever make from growing pot.

OK its not grow lights but industry is using LEDs and and it will explode this year. The innovations needed have arrived.

a simple search uncovered this:

Lighting Industry Survey Confirms LED Lighting Market Growth

By the end of 2008, LEDs are expected to be commonly used in offices, parking garages and residential outdoor applications

DURHAM, N.C., JANUARY 28, 2008 â?? Cree, Inc. (Nasdaq: CREE), a market leader in LED solid-state lighting components, announces the results of an independent survey on the adoption, deployment and benefits of LED lighting. The survey, taken at the recent 2007 Hong Kong International Lighting Fair, validates strong global growth for LED lighting applications, confirms awareness of the energy-efficiency benefits of LEDs and indicates that the adoption trend should continue through the end of the decade.

Key survey findings include:
* Nearly three-quarters (72 percent) of respondents have witnessed a growth rate in excess of 20 percent for LED lighting applications in their businesses over the past six months.

* Almost two-thirds of respondents (63 percent) believe LED lighting will comprise more than 50 percent of their sales or installations by 2009.

* Future growth in the LED lighting market is expected to come from a mix of applications â?? with street/parking (20 percent), residential indoor (17 percent), retail/display (17 percent) and office (15 percent) cited as the leading opportunities.

Survey respondents represent top decision-makers at lighting manufacturers who attended the 2007 Hong Kong International Lighting Fair â?? the largest lighting show in Asia and the second largest in the world. Nearly half the respondents to this survey were from outside of Asia, reflecting the surveyâ??s global reach.

â??The survey results present us with a clear and positive picture of growth patterns and expectations from leaders in fixture design and manufacturing,â?� said Greg Merritt, director of corporate marketing, Cree. â??The survey shows an increasing demand for the high-quality, energy-efficient LEDs that Cree currently provides and is continuing to develop.â?�

â??The general illumination market is at a tipping point,â?� Merritt said. â??Creeâ??s industry-leading XLampÃ? family of high-performance cool- and warm-white LEDs is uniquely positioned to serve the needs of lighting manufacturers who are ready to capitalize on this growth.â?�

[SnSstealth]

Wind power, solar cells (subsidies pay 14-25 cents per kwh to cover cost rich get richer poor get poorer:wtf,bio fuels (consumes more power than they net rich get richer poor get poorer:wtf:, battery power (1919 2007 80 miles to a charge almost 90 years later net gain 0,, ZERO net:wtf , Someday they will make,leds output to cost ratio:thumbsup:.

WOW! battery power has had "ZERO" advancement in 90 years huh? So whats this thing attached to my cordless drill that works alot better than the older (same company) one I bought 2 years ago? and what does "80 miles to a charge" mean?

As for the people using solar, wind and waterfed(almost forgot that one) power, the rich dont get paid by them so they dont become quite so rich. yes they sell what they buy for a profit GASP! How is it you lose money(sorry "get poorer") by not paying for elec.?

[SnSstealth]

Hear is a Qoute from a PHILIPS Rep.(In LED MAG.) LED COMING SOON!!! Aquarium, Horticulture, General Lighting.

WE have been Working on our LED arrays for the past 3 years to ensure we have the correct OUTPUT for each application. Qoute:Qoute, KURE'WAKE!!!! Kuwacha crack. Later

If they've spent three years on it, then i'd say a good two years was spent on class 1's. while they could have played with spectrum, the low output levels though might make it tough to translate to now but i'm sure they'll figure it out.

"they've gotta have more forms, I mean...they are scientists"...lol(half-baked)

[hatch]

If they've spent three years on it, then i'd say a good two years was spent on class 1's. while they could have played with spectrum, the low output levels though might make it tough to translate to now but i'm sure they'll figure it out.

"they've gotta have more forms, I mean...they are scientists"...lol(half-baked)

The problem they are having trouble with is the UVB, Which is harful to humans.

They are trying to produce it in a un-harmful way!!!

I, Personally would like to get them to put UVB in the Grow Lights, And when you are in the room, Just flip a switch and turn off the UVB. BUT and that's a big word, Were talking about many Law Suites in the making.

You can get a low watt UVB from a reptile Lamp, But you don't need to be in the grow room when it is on!!! You will see a big response it the Trich. count.

This Light is purple right? This purple , which is in the 200-270nm of the spectrum, which is the ultra-violet to blue, Useful Radiation (PUR).

Metal Halides and High Pressure Sodium Lights have ALL the UVB blocked. And Us as grower's need the UVB, POLITIC'S and HUMANITARIAN'S-RIGHTS-ACTIVIST looking for a free ride, Suing the Corporations is the big hold up, That wouldn't be GREEN, Hurting people with radiation. But it would be DAMN GREEN for us eh!!

Hey I don't want any more radiation, I already have Cancer, But I think I'm smart-enough to turn the Fucking Shit off when I'm around it. "That's my store and I'm sticking with it"!! Later

[Opie Yutts]

Hey brother thats why you have those headaches!! High Blood Pressure!!

Where is a thread we can bullshit? I want to ask you some stuff about your headaches. Later

OK hatch, for you...
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-...ml#post1802729

OK, for others and myself as well.

[SnSstealth]

not a purple light hatch. its 3lights, each with 16 blue and 40 red...so we have a damn good spectrum....is blacklight the right UV?