Turtle I wanted to do some mothers with my next grow.. My question is about how many 42w CFLs would I need to keep about 3 mothers in a cab. I always wanted to know how do you control the height of a mother in a constant veg stage? Nice to hear you back in Biz. I really hope you pull this one off. I think you'll do just fine you are learning alot from your mistakes (and so is everyone else):thumbsup: and with that you will only do more of a positive effect on your upcoming grows. I'm pretty sure that there are few people that have tried all this you have done on there 1st grow and from what everyone sees your doing a damn good job :thumbsup: keep it up