What strain would you pick?

[Gen]

As long as they are green keep growing them. Try shortening the stem on half and leave the other half with long stems. See which ones do better. I don't snip any plant part unless it's dead. Turtle you're making this way too hard. Make a bubbler and put the water level just below the stem Leave this on 24/7. If the leaves start curling (mine did) it's too much light. The bubbler can be just plain water. In 7-9 days you will see roots or root buds. There is a picture of the one I made for $12 on my grow thread. So do a bunch of different things to see which ones you like best. Zandor always says if this is your first time grow, put a few in dirt, till you get the hydro worked out. In my grow I have 5 soil and 5 hydro. I already know how to grow and hydro is keeping me really busy. The soil plants are alot easier.

[Powder Puff]

Thanks for the uplifting words pPuff... but don't worry, after +$4,000 invested, this plants WILL flower... Even if I have to stick GH nutes down their stems with a syringe.... I am NOT kidding... they WILL grow!

WUHUUU!!!!! Thanks pPuff,
In honor of your name, I will go now have a "Puff" of some good chronic I scored... and, completing your name, it will be a "Power Puff" !!!! LOL!!!!

Best pPuff,

-turtle420
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Good!

Wow.. +4,000.. wow.. I spent about 300££ on mine.. lol!

I'll be getting upgrades soon enough though..!

Power Puff.. That was my initial name.. But, I did something, and never fully registered.. So, I just became Powder Puff! lol

Just keep trying.. Over and over.. I wasted 18 good seeds on my first attempts..! lol..

[Gen]

Turtle, are you okay? Maybe I was a little too harsh. The clones will be fine.

[Crimsondane]

whoa, i just read the first 10 pages or so and im really impressed with your grow., more pics more pics,
im on my first grow as welland about 3 weeks into flower, but i dont have a camera, but thinking about getting one with tax rebate
anyways i skipped to the last pages and saw you had cloning probs and bugs

all i can say about the cloning is dont use alotta light. really dark is the way to gojust till roots form, ,
and are you using a rooting gel or similar rooting compound?
i have fallin in love with your style, though i havent read the middle end stuff yet
KEEP THE FAITH!!

Crimsondane

[Crimsondane]

yeah this is my 2nd post, ive just found this place a few days ago with OG.com going down. but after some surfing here its just about the same.
so ill keep watchin and posting ..

[turtle420]

Turtle, are you okay? Maybe I was a little too harsh. The clones will be fine.

Hello Gen...

Nah... you weren't too harsh. But, when I read your post, it was like 3:45 in the morning, I had been awake a looong time, and been working on those clones for a long time. So, your information (although perfectly un-biased), was a pretty hard hit with reality for me. I just got frustrated. Not much else I can say.

But don't worry, I won't stop. No way. I'll try this Cloning v3.0 with the fog one more time... if these clones die, then it's off to Gen's simple bubble cloner.

Thanks for the input Gen, even if they're a "hit with reality", please, keep them coming. I appreciate it...

yeah this is my 2nd post, ive just found this place a few days ago with OG.com going down. but after some surfing here its just about the same.
so ill keep watchin and posting ..

Hey Crimsondane, good to have you here man Both in this thread, and more importantly, in the boards. People here are very friendly Wow... both your 2 posts are in my thread... I feel overwelmed... lol ! Enjoy your stay!

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UPDATES:::
Mother plants: Well, they're in the mother cab... I've got the four CFLs turned ON. Each CFL is 42Watts... they're "comparable" to a 200W incandescent. Mothers seem to be doing fine. Keeping a close eye on them... don't want anything bad happening...

CLONES: The clones are looking fine. The CFL I'm using is a "daylight" reading light... it's rated for 60 watts (I think) and it consumes 10Watts... so you can imagine the "punnyness" of the light. Anyways, the clones are fine. Their leaves haven't wilted, everything is fine.

The NutraMist is being turned ON for 1 minute, every 9 minutes. I tried to leave it ON constantly, but it was impossible. I mean, the cabinet got filled up with fog... fog started pouring out by the seams, sides, the Dayton on top... it was a disaster. So, it's 1minON/9minOFF now. The Dayton fan isn't turned ON all the time, it turns ON for 4 minutes every 30 minutes.

Temps hovering around the low 80's... Hopefully they'll work.

I'll post pics later today.

Thanks for everything my good friends,

-turtle420
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[BukDatAss]

Turtle I wanted to do some mothers with my next grow.. My question is about how many 42w CFLs would I need to keep about 3 mothers in a cab. I always wanted to know how do you control the height of a mother in a constant veg stage? Nice to hear you back in Biz. I really hope you pull this one off. I think you'll do just fine you are learning alot from your mistakes (and so is everyone else):thumbsup: and with that you will only do more of a positive effect on your upcoming grows. I'm pretty sure that there are few people that have tried all this you have done on there 1st grow and from what everyone sees your doing a damn good job :thumbsup: keep it up

[turtle420]

^^^^ Buk,
Thanks for the words man!
BTW: You got time for some Halo now?

As to the 42W CFLs for the Mothers... I trully am not sure. I placed 4 of those (42W) because I had them, and the sockets. I figured, if I don't need that many, I can turn OFF one, or two. But I trully don't know how many are needed.

As to the mothers, I'd really like the input (I think it deserves a new thread) from JustAseed... his mothers are exactly what I would like. I kept mine @ a small height, but, they're not, um, "organized"...

Arghh... my hard disk is making noises... better back-up everything.

I'll reload in 10,

-turtle420
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[Gen]

Turtle, I'm glad you're back.

I just read in the Big Book of Buds, that white widow needs to be changed to 8 hours of light last two weeks of flowering in order to halt regrowth on the buds and produce just enough stress to coax out the maximum amount of sticky resin per inch. Also the greenhouse (whoever they are they have the best seeds) recommends light water and light nutes. I've been pushing water with my plants. Time to cut back.

Clones are very hardy, people do chop off leaves and they grow just fine. So I was bad in criticizing you. Sorry. Here's to a great grow.

[turtle420]

Turtle, I'm glad you're back.

I just read in the Big Book of Buds, that white widow needs to be changed to 8 hours of light last two weeks of flowering in order to halt regrowth on the buds and produce just enough stress to coax out the maximum amount of sticky resin per inch. Also the greenhouse (whoever they are they have the best seeds) recommends light water and light nutes. I've been pushing water with my plants. Time to cut back.

Clones are very hardy, people do chop off leaves and they grow just fine. So I was bad in criticizing you. Sorry. Here's to a great grow.

Hey G,
Thanks for posting
That White Widow information is super interesting... I didn't know that... and here I was going, about to do my thing with the plants... and no idea what they needed... lol
So, intersting White Widow grow pointers:::
1. Last 2 weeks, 8 hours of light... for a 8/16 light schedule
2. Light watering
3. Light nutrients

That sounds good Thanks! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

As to your being "bad in criticizing" me, don't worry Gen. I trully know your intentions are the best... I've got no doubt. And I preffer being told about reality than being lied to with a fairy tale... so, you did absolutely the right thing... now I learned for my next clones!

The current clones are doing good... I finally understood the idea of a "weak" light for the clones... damn, it has to be weeeaaaakkk in order to work. Anyways, weak CFL is turned ON, and clones seem to be doing good. I say they're doing good because, well, I don't see them doing "bad". They're still standing straight up (except one, it's a little tilted), their leaves haven't withered/coiled, etc. They look good !

I'm looking for the roots all the time, but so far, no roots. But no worries, they'll come!

I'm still trying to figure out my pest control with CO2. I posted over in the Advanced Section, but no answer. I'll bump it in about a week. I was thinking of killing my pests by "suffocating" them with high CO2 levels. I think that's the best because it'll be the fastest, cleanest, easiest and most effective pest control. I think. I hope.

Best everybody, love to all,

-turtle420
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