What strain would you pick?

[turtle420]

Good afternoon ,
pPuff, Jdog,
Sorry.... lol... yes... I reviewed the photos yesterday (since day 1) and I counted a total of 5 times it has "slipped my mind". It's just that :rasta:

I've estimated that i'm running about 7000 lumens in my setup. Yet, I dont think I've taken full advantage of them. From what I've read and seen there wouldnt be much difference between vegging and flowering with fluorescents and hid lights as long as the lumens are the same. I've managed to pull it off with an incredibly inefficient setup, from what i've learned personally. If you have the bucks and space to get a hid, then get a hid, if you dont, the go with the fluorescents. You can be a little more creative with compact fluorescents. Make sure they are color adjusted as well. This is just my take on the whole argument. Oh it has taken in my estimation about 4 mos for my grow. It would problaly be a month less if not for the many mods, mistakes, and general mishaps. :stoned:

Thanks for the input Brego. I won't get an HID because the cabinet is simply too small. I'm going to have to build some kind of cool tube... or "cool box" for the HID MH bulb.
People with experience, does a 250W MH put out a lot of heat? Or something comparable to four CFLs? Are there 100W MHs? 150W?

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Side note on the .... ??? Forgot what the hell I was writing.

Peace,

-turtle420
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Thanks again my good friends

[turtle420]

Hello friends,

Update on the plants: Doing great. No problems there. They've grown quite a lot recently... I'll be LSTing them a little later tonight. I'm uploading a pic that's about 2 hours old.

Update on the clones: , and then . After and without so . Finally, , so I though

I'm uploading a pic of the clones... or what's left of them. I think that the one most in the rear is picking up its top growth... but the other two... well... the other two are in a bad shape.

Regardless if the best one works or not, I'll have to re-do the entire thing... I need to know the sex of all my plants. So, we have to start over...

But I've got some improvements, I'd like your input on them...
I'm re-doing the "clone for sex" thing again... but I'm using the same 6" pot, with a almost-100% sealed "humidity dome". This specialized clone "dome" was obtained from a salad box. It'll work pretty good. As Dr. Kaze said, we need to try and keep the fog around the leaves.

Second improvement::: 18/6 hours of light, instead of the present 6/18 (yes, 6 light, 18 dark). After they pickup a little, we place them 12/12 or 6/18.

Third improvement needs input: Should I use the waxy spray thing on the leaves? As I'm going to have a dome over the clones, holding the fog inside and around the leaves.

Input from veteran clone-wars, Battle of SCRoG, would be greatly appreciated.

Ok guys, I'm all open to suggestions...

-turtle420
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[turtle420]

Today, I'll try to make the clone chamber...
With a nifty dome over the top so it holds in the fog. Let's hope it works this time.
I'm uploading a "slipped my mind" pic. It was yesterday. Sorry guys
But they're :thumbsup: :thumbsup: right now. So everything is :smokin:

More updates later today.

Great day everyone!,

-turtle420
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[Powder Puff]

It looks like everything is dying on you..! I hope it picks up!

Now I'll say, good luck!

[turtle420]

It looks like everything is dying on you..! I hope it picks up!

Now I'll say, good luck!

Hey pPuff, how you doing?

Don't worry, they won't be dying. After I snapped the pic, I watered them, and I'm sure that 61 minutes later, they where fine and dandy.

The cloneS!!! I'm doing Clone Wars v2.0 later today... this time, it will work!

[turtle420]

Well, the night is kind of slow... so I'll figured I'd do the update.

I finished off the mother cabinet. Did the air intake properly, with grills, light traps and fresh outside air.
Then did the hole for the fog feed hose. Sealed both of those up pretty good.
Did some light leak proofing on the front door panel. That's working pretty good.

Ok, as to the clones... I'm uploading two pics.
You can see just when I placed them into the cab. Then, placed the cover over them and turned ON the NutraMist fogger. The cycles presently stand at 1minON/9minOFF.

When the fogger turns OFF, the dome is fully covered with fog, as in the picture. But, after about 6 minutes, it's already clear again... apparently, the cabinet's fan sucks are through the gaps of the clone dome.

As of right now, they're looking pretty weak. All fallen over. BUT! I've got faith... I've got faith that the 5-6 minutes of fog around the roots/stems and the fog over the leaves will make them come alive.

Interesting NOTE: This time around, I did not use waxy spray for the leaves. I just used the rooting hormone.

Input greatly appreciated...

-turtle420
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BTW: Mother plants are doing super. Super. Brilliant!

[turtle420]

Freaking ISP finally lets me post pictures.... arrgrghhhhh

[turtle420]

Hello again

Uploading a pic... it shows our friendly boards, plus the X10 timers interface.

You can create really intricate cycles with the program. At dark (night) time, my fresh air fans turn ON for a couple of minutes then OFF.

Nothing, thought you might like the pic.

Later,

-turtle420

[turtle420]

Hello guys,

This is day 2 of my second attempt at cloning.
I'm attaching a pic. You can see that two clones have clearly "stood up" already... the third one isn't pointing upwards, but it's working it.

They're making it! They're going to make it!
I'm planning on changing them 12/12 as soon as the 3rd clone pics up.

Things done differently than Clones v1.0:::
1- Only 1 43W CFL is turned ON, instead of 3
2- The clones have a "fog" dome (or humidity dome) that gives the leaves full fog coverage for about 4-5 minutes.
3- No waxy spray on the leaves
4- 18/6 light schedule, instead of the v1.0's 6/18.

Input greatly welcomed,

-turtle420
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[turtle420]

Well, here's a pic of the mothers.

Not much to say, other than they keep on growing.

Rasta, now I'm wondering if I really do want to re-pot them... They're kind of headed to a bonsai-state of life. ???

We'll be knowing the results of their sex in about 14 days, if everything goes according to plan. Again, males... death. Females, we keep them.

I've been playing around with the FIM technique... pretty interesting. I'm still trying to get 4-5 new shoots out of a cut... so far, the best I've gotten has been three. Interested in seen where this is going.