newb's 1st try...

[Rekap]

Dude, i would just get a 25 gal tub at Wal-Mart and transplant into it. Get a 400 watt Metal Halide and the HPS. You should use the HPS for flower and the Metal Halide for veg. Your results will look something like this....

excuse my ignorance, but what is a Halid

[KenoSmoker]

keep us updated on the growth of your baby

[9ski9]

From Hydroponics.com:

Metal halide lights were created to provide a spectrum as close as possible to that of the natural sunlight. This coupled with their intensity and energy efficiency, makes them ideal for indoor gardening. The bulbs range in size from 100 watt to 1000 watt with 400 watt and 1000 watt most popular.

An abundance of blue light emitted by metal halide makes them the best light for propagation and vegetative growth, promoting short internodal length High Pressure Sodium lights do not emit as broad a spectrum as Metal Halides lights, but have many advantages, especially when used in conjunction with halide. Sodiums last longer, and burn brighter, but are still more energy efficient.


More yellow/red colour in the spectrum and less blue promotes a higher flower-to-leaf ratio in flowering plants. H.P.S. lights are widely used in commercial greenhouses, where natural sunlight provides sufficient blue. A combination of the two lights provides the best balanced for indoor growroom, especially when used with a light mover. 430 Watt Son Agro H.P.S. bulbs which supply 30 extra watts than regular ones are now available. This extra light in the blue end of the spectrum is great news for indoor growers. If you are planing a "single lamp" growroom, you can still get the benefits of both halide and sodium light. High pressure sodium "conversion bulbs", specially made to operate with M.H. ballasts, are available in 400 watt and 1000 watt models. The bulbs can easily be interchanged as needed, using the same ballast and fixture. The size of the light you will need will depend on the size of the growing area, and the type of plants you wish to grow.


High-light plants such as herbs and vegetables will require between 20 and 60 watts of light per square foot of growing space. A 400 watt metal halide in a three foot by three foot area will provide 45 watts per square foot, compared to 25 watts per square foot in five foot by five foot growroom. A 1000 watt metal halide in a five foot by five foot area will provide 40 watts per sq.ft., compared to 20 watts per square foot in a seven by seven foot growroom.

[9ski9]

Many growers veg entirely with CFL's because they are cool and you can get them within an inch of the plant top. The idea is to have a short, sturdy main stem; the less stretching the better. MH lights are relatively hot and you have to take great care to keep a steady air flow over the bulb and plant canopy, especially with young plants.

I'm currently mixing a 400w HPS, 250w MH, and several CFL's during flowering. I vegged entirely with CFL's, but I'll probably add MH for my next veg.

25 gallon tub? Wouldn't that fuck up his doctor's office look?

[Rekap]

Many growers veg entirely with CFL's because they are cool and you can get them within an inch of the plant top. The idea is to have a short, sturdy main stem; the less stretching the better. MH lights are relatively hot and you have to take great care to keep a steady air flow over the bulb and plant canopy, especially with young plants.

I'm currently mixing a 400w HPS, 250w MH, and several CFL's during flowering. I vegged entirely with CFL's, but I'll probably add MH for my next veg.

25 gallon tub? Wouldn't that fuck up his doctor's office look?

doctors office, lol. its just an empty closet that painted white...well, yeah i guess you are right

as for lighting i think im going to just stick with the flor. and get a 400w hps for flowering. im also going to add in the foil/dull side up to the temp home, and the white rocks today, ill post pics later tonight.

[turtle420]

From Hydroponics.com:

Metal halide lights were created to provide a spectrum as close as possible to that of the natural sunlight. This coupled with their intensity and energy efficiency, makes them ideal for indoor gardening. The bulbs range
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five foot area will provide 40 watts per sq.ft., compared to 20 watts per square foot in a seven by seven foot growroom.

Hey 9ski9, would you mind giving me your input as to LED lights?
Here's the thread:::
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34819

I would trully appreciate it!

[colaking]

hi there everyone,just reading what you are saying about the lighting.....
i was using a 400watt son-t-plus in my closet grow for both veg and flower.i have made some changes recently and wonder if anyone has tried the lights i am now using...
i have small cudboard with a 125watt envirolite (veg),which i put all my cuttings under and veg with till i am ready to move to my flowering closet...i have used this method for about 4months and am well happy with the results....I now changed my son-t-plus for a twin envirolite hood and a single reflector with all with 200watt enviro's red spec...i wasnt sure about losing my son-t-plus but did anyway and again i'm not dissapointed...They say that these lights are 70% cheaper to run and i must say iv'e gone from 400watts to 600 watts and i havnt noticed a change on my electric card meter...Also the plant uses all the output of these lights....My hood is right above(1 inch) my durban poison plant which is in its 9th week of flower and she is lovin it..There are a few pics in my folder if anyone would like to look.. happy growing dudes!!

[colaking]

[QUOTE=colaking]hi there everyone,just reading what you are saying about the lighting.....
i was using a 400watt son-t-plus in my closet grow for both veg and flower.i have made some changes recently and wonder if anyone has tried the lights i am now using...
i have small cudboard with a 125watt envirolite (veg),which i put all my cuttings under and veg with till i am ready to move to my flowering closet...i have used this method for about 4months and am well happy with the results....I now changed my son-t-plus for a twin envirolite hood and a single reflector with all with 200watt enviro's red spec...i wasnt sure about losing my son-t-plus but did anyway and again i'm not dissapointed...They say that these lights are 70% cheaper to run and i must say iv'e gone from 400watts to 600 watts and i havnt noticed a change on my electric card meter...Also the plant uses all the output of these lights....My hood is right above(1 inch) my durban poison plant which is in its 9th week of flower and she is lovin it..There are a few pics in my folder if anyone would like to look.. happy growing dudes!!

[9ski9]

Hey 9ski9, would you mind giving me your input as to LED lights?
Here's the thread:::
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34819
I would trully appreciate it!

Man, turtle, the concept sounds like it could be the ideal light set-up for all situations. In theory, wouldn't you be able to select and dial in your lumens as the grow progresses? But this is Zandor-level stuff. Sorry, I'm VERY interested in checking this out, but humbly defer to the smart people 'round here.

Colaking: no better testimonial than having it work for you, right?

[budman2000]

By the way....at insidesun dot blah u can get a 400W MH all inclusive w/3yr warrenty for only a $110

Can even get a 250W HPS all inclusive for GET READY $75 bucks

check it out....they are out of Indy........