Under god...

[Void]

So what do you guys think about the character trying to take Under God out of the pledge? I don't know if it effects any of you seeing as half might not go to school and are expected to say it every morning...what about your kids though?

Void Reviewed by Void on 10-11-2005. Under god... So what do you guys think about the character trying to take Under God out of the pledge? I don't know if it effects any of you seeing as half might not go to school and are expected to say it every morning...what about your kids though? Rating: 5

[ermitonto]

Anybody who wants to spew nationalistic chants should be free to mention God however many times they please, but schools making children chant in favor of their religion and nationalism is absurd. I wasn't informed I could opt out until well into middle school. But it doesn't really matter to me now though, since I'm not the type to pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth (I pledge allegiance to humankind instead...somehow it seems more worthy of my allegiance).

[ermitonto]

but schools making children chant in favor of their religion and nationalism is absurd

By "their", I meant the religion and nationalism of the people running the schools, not the children's, of course. Most young people don't really have developed political and religious ideas, and if they believe anything about politics and religion it's whatever has been drilled into their heads at school and church rather than the result of a thought-out individual opinion.

[Psycho4Bud]

The last change in the Pledge of Allegiance occurred on June 14 (Flag Day), 1954 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved adding the words "under God". As he authorized this change he said:

"In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war."

http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofhe...fc_pledge.html

So what's the big deal about saying "under God"? If your a non-believer, it shouldn't mean nothing to ya at all anyways!

[andruejaysin]

More troubling to me the "under god" is the idea that children should be trained to pledge their allegiance to anything. If it is important to someone that their children say this superstitious bullshit, them perhaps they should say it with them before they put them on the bus. But it isn't their children they wish to be well trained sheep (already done), it is mine.

[Breukelen advocaat]

The "Under God" version should not be used in government activities and business. This includes public schools, the courts, Congress, etc. If private organizations wish to say it that way they can, and should, do so â?? but not at the taxpayersâ?? expense. Even more important than the "representation" argument is the personal choice that people have as to their belief(s), or lack of.

[Torog]

So what do you guys think about the character trying to take Under God out of the pledge? I don't know if it effects any of you seeing as half might not go to school and are expected to say it every morning...what about your kids though?

Howdy Void,

I think that Michael Newdow,is a scurrilous,secular humanist,berift of character and a parasite of America's many blessings..he takes from his country-but gives nothing back..typical behaviour of the lowest form of liberal.

Children need to learn early on,that saying the pledge of allegiance,is a pledge to give back to the country that they live in and which has unique freedoms that no other country has or ever had. I believe that every citizen of America,should strive to be a citizen/soldier and that our blessings are derived from God. Freedom ain't free..and we must be eternally vigilant.

Have a good one ...

[Psycho4Bud]

Howdy Void,

I think that Michael Newdow,is a scurrilous,secular humanist,berift of character and a parasite of America's many blessings..he takes from his country-but gives nothing back..typical behaviour of the lowest form of liberal.

Well said! Collect the check, get the aid....but can't say the pledge of allegiance? What ever happened to respect?

[F L E S H]

Ignore this post... Sorry

[F L E S H]

The last change in the Pledge of Allegiance occurred on June 14 (Flag Day), 1954 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved adding the words "under God". As he authorized this change he said:

"In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war."

http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofhe...fc_pledge.html

So what's the big deal about saying "under God"? If your a non-believer, it shouldn't mean nothing to ya at all anyways!

The big deal is that to me, someone mentioning God is just as offensive as when someone tells a religious person that there is no god. But then again, I'm Canadian, so it doesn't really concern me, thank god...