Thanks again Everybody! Latewood what did y9ou mean? I always cut them, and then dip the into a jell. then place them in some presoaked cubes in a flat. This flat has holes in it, and you set it into another flat. Once a day dip them and supposedly this gives oxigen to the plants. Drain it good, and put it back into the second flat, put on the dome, and was putting them on heat pads under 3 shoplites. I use Olivia's 6 oz. per gal. until they root. Its been so long since I've got that far, I doubt I'll know what to do, stand bye!! thanks Donnie