Quote Originally Posted by hempity
i was watching the news from new york.
there were "police"? walking around in battle dress and packing full auto weapons, they were searching anyone they felt like, i am sure asking for "papers" also.
doesn't that seem a little out of place in the land of the free and the home of the brave? i must be to old, i just don't see the difference between what is happening now in new york, and the way it was in germany and poland, during hitlers reign.
Please refrain from comparing everything that you do not like to Hitler and Nazi Germany. This rhetorical device is "getting old", and it's not applicable to the situation in New York, where the largest mass murder in America's history took place on 9/11/01.

The police are NOT walking around rousting, or "searching" people in NYC. There are random baggage checks in the subways. I have not been subject to this. The City is ASKING people to refrain from bringing backpacks and large bags in the subway, so that they do not have to inspect them.

Believe it or not, I am disturbed by the infringements on my privacy ?? but that may be necessary in these times for safety.

Had our foreign policies been different, possibly this situation would not have come about. Our domestic policies for the security of the nation are hampered by rivalries between agencies. The public becomes confused when the Dept. of Homeland Security, New York City, and other agencies issue conflicting opinions regarding the viability of a threat.

The incompetence of much of the government is staggering to behold, and, for me at least, is a fairly good indication of the lack of plausibility for a vast ??conspiracy? design in this terrorism story. The facts are sad, and often disgraceful, but the sources must be considered. This crew is too dumb to be able to pull off a major coup in a way similar to that which some of you are suggesting. Some power brokers WILL take advantage of the opportunities for profit, but I do not think that they would be able to successfully cover-up their participation with staging major terrorist attacks - and subsequently blaming al queda.
Breukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on . Terror threat: Security tightened in New York they can just say there's a terror threat, and we have to take your rights to protect you...the terrorists hate your freedom, but we're taking it away so the terrorists can't...no 4th amendment is good for freedom...we're all potential terrorists...meanwhile the real terrorists (military industrial complex/white house) get off scot free...good for them, they won't be searched because they have national security to protect them, they can do whatever they want because they're officials and Rating: 5