Well for one thing it's not really a 'real' photo of what the light looks like coming out of the grow area. I was just funnin ya. ha

Nope not from Star Wars. Just from one of those guys that can't just say something simply. Like some doctors. You ask them what's wrong and they go on at length with very technical and sometimes unheard of terms. Then you say..."What?"

But his point sounds valid. Lumens is a measure of light intensity for humans. Plants could give a rat's ass about lumens as it doesn't relate to what they need. They need the energy the light generates. It doesn't matter how bright it is to the plant. Just so it gets the energy. We could call it "cabumblefuk's" instead of lumens, but lumens is what we've been "trained" to recognize.

But if I had posted the subject of this thread "44,000 PHOTONS!" most people would've posted responses like, "So how many lumens is that?" I'ts what we're used to.

And you can tell me off all you want Mand. Just don't tie me up. Well.... maybe just once.