A buddy of mine and I would buy a quarter of an ounce during the summer, and just pack the whole bowl with bud, and just pass the hose back and forth until we couldn't think anymore. Hookahs.. are awesome. You don't need to use the tobacco. It should burn just fine without it, but it's kinda a nice touch, because it makes it taste very good. Dank + Fruity Taste = Delicious.