Quote Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy hempity,

Thanx for taking the time to respond to me.

Well it sounds like ya must be a pretty big feller,if ya ain't worn size 12 shoes since you were 11 years old..and cars are too small for ya. Us patriots know that throwing a tantrum doesn't do much good,we prefer quiet,determined resolve..to git-r-done.

Every soldier,no matter their age,experiences fear at some point-it's only natural..but I'd say that for the most part,even our young soldiers are very brave and simply desire freedom for others,not just for themselves.

There ain't no one telling me what to eat or wear,I make all of them choices by myself..that society has crafted laws and regulations,that urge us what to do,and sometimes punish us for our choices,does not mean that I conform to them..or believe in them.

As for the difference between id's and papers, 'papers',usually implies that there are military check-points that stop folks and ask for their proof of citizenship,by passport or birth certificate. If I'm stopped by the cops,they don't ask me for my passport or birth certificate,they just want to know if I'm legally able to drive and operate the class of motor vehicle,that I'm in.

As for the rest of the world,my eyes have been opened to them,I never imagined just how many folks actually believe that terrorists can be appeased and that they will simply go away-if we would just give em what they want and try not to upset their feelings. Yup..I'm seeing the rest of the world,that doesn't believe in fighting for freedom,for the cowards that they really are.

Have a good one ...

you are welcome Turog,

i must admit, if nothing else, you have mellowed somewhat.

yes i am a large man, no fault of my own, and it is funny to see little children respond with "mommy mommy look at that man", sometimes, it is not funny to see the fear that it can generate, so i allow others to dress me now, i have never shaved or cut my hair, my family did not believe in it, so i am non threatening these days.
it was not always so.

i learned that the reason people fought, was because they were afraid, that scared me, i used to fight alot.
i am not saying that the soldiers are not brave, only that their lives are wasted on oil, because that is what this is about.
no matter how much you rail and whine, this war is about the price and availability of fossil fuel.
you yanks are killing babies for oil.


freedom, liberty is given by God, man can only take it away.

listen
i learned to ride a bike when i was very young, i learned to count on all of my senses, they taught me to stay alive, i trained my hearing, sight, eye and neck movement, to keep me alive and up on two wheels. helmets take that away, yet to ride without police up our asses, we must wear helmets, because some bitch wants to protect her baby. when in reality it only hinders them and gives them a sense of false safety


she is not the expert, i am..

yet i and all others must bow to her ignorance, if we want to ride.

even if you do not wish to acknowledge it, the FDA, tells you what to eat, the DOT tells you what to wear, the DEA tells you what to smoke, the ATF tells you what to drink, and now the DHS tells you what to say.


there is no difference between "let me see some ID" and "papers please", it is the same crap, someone decided that you all should be identified, because a very few of you were criminals or subversives.

terrorist is a word made up by your government to scare you, and to convince you, theirs was the only freedom available.
a man willing to die for his beliefs is not a terrorist, he is a poor passionate man, Christ was a poor passionate man, so i guess to your government, Christ was a terrorist.

you cannot fight for freedom, it is a gift, from the Creator
neither can you fight for peace, it is a gift, from his Son

peace be upon you all

mitaoyate,
hempity