Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Photos

[Torog]

Your hopes and prayers apparently are crap, it is all going to come out in the wash, and no matter how much you scream, cry, and stomp your little feet, you will pay for this and other atrocities committed in the name of your God and your false freedom.
The war in Iraq is already a failure, "there is no right way to do a wrong thing".
you are a traitor, anyone who thinks like you are traitors to liberty and freedom, you fight,die, and kill innocents defending your ignorance.

Howdy hempity,

First off..I don't throw hissy fits like a child-and I don't have little feet..I wear size 12,steel-toed,RedWing boots.

God will judge those who have sinned and they will pay for those sins,they are few in number,compared to those who have not committed atrocities,the majority of our soldiers,are good folks..who simply want others to be as blessed as they are.

You presume that those who perish,are all innocent..when such is not the case..ie,the enemy is innocent..but we are all guilty because of the crimes of our ancestors..those who oppose America-can do no wrong in yer eyes.

Have a good one ...

[Torog]

Howdy Torog,

i reckon you believe in the army dont you? dont you feel proud thinking of the heroic men who fought to uphold our freedoms those many decades ago?

well then how come you're so willing to let it go down the trash like that? you really want to excuse such wanton and depraved behaviour?

it wasn't enough to even hear a rumour of abu ghraib mistreatment? you didnt demand action from your congressman? you excused it because the enemy was getting what they deserved?

some patriot you are.

Howdy nicholas,

Nope..I don't want to excuse any criminal behaviour,but the arab media will portray all of our soldiers as being criminals..when in fact-the majority of our soldiers..are some of the finest folks on God's Green Earth.

I will never excuse that type of behaviour..even the enemy doesn't deserve such..even tho they have commited far worse and continue to do so-on a daily basis.

Why is it-that you excuse the atrocities,committed on a daily basis,by the enemy ? Why is it-that you excuse them from cold-blooded murder,rape and torture ? Because of yer hatred for Bush and America ?

Have a good one ...

[Tholiak]

I have absolutely no problem beating the hell out of people that wish me dead

[nicholasstanko]

Howdy nicholas,

Nope..I don't want to excuse any criminal behaviour,but the arab media will portray all of our soldiers as being criminals..when in fact-the majority of our soldiers..are some of the finest folks on God's Green Earth.

so what about the american media portraying all jihadists and "insurgents" (i quoted that because its a made-up word seeking to demonise...kinda like marijuana) as freedom-hating extremists? You dont think POSSIBLY just a few...hundred of them are scared of american imperialism and are fighting to protect their home? Also, i say if there was no torture then there would be no fuel to add to al-jazeera's fire.

I will never excuse that type of behaviour..even the enemy doesn't deserve such..even tho they have commited far worse and continue to do so-on a daily basis.

You already have excused that type of behaviour. Abu ghraib? hello? torture? hello? debates on mainstream media about whether or not torture is okay? hello? i havnt seen a single post of yours proclaiming your disgust about random people being victimised.

Why is it-that you excuse the atrocities,committed on a daily basis,by the enemy ? Why is it-that you excuse them from cold-blooded murder,rape and torture ? Because of yer hatred for Bush and America ?

i DONT excuse torture...on anybodys part. im very adamant about americans and canadians torturing the "enemy" because i know how easily things come back around to haunt people. You honestly think that america will never be privy to captured soldiers? foreign invasion? you're a damn fool (respectively speaking of course). You think they behead people on videotape just for kicks (a splendid manipulation by the way)?

Have a good one ...

Torog, you can't justify torture while proclaiming to love freedom. Its an oxymoron of sorts.

[hempity]

Howdy hempity,

First off..I don't throw hissy fits like a child-and I don't have little feet..I wear size 12,steel-toed,RedWing boots.

God will judge those who have sinned and they will pay for those sins,they are few in number,compared to those who have not committed atrocities,the majority of our soldiers,are good folks..who simply want others to be as blessed as they are.

You presume that those who perish,are all innocent..when such is not the case..ie,the enemy is innocent..but we are all guilty because of the crimes of our ancestors..those who oppose America-can do no wrong in yer eyes.

Have a good one ...

well Turog,
you have been around a while, so i will take the time for this, however, i am still am not convinced that you are not a government spook, hard to believe anyone could pretend this much ignorance.

first off, to me you have little feet, i have not worn size twelve since i was 11 or so, all my footwear now is made, mostly moccasins, for my size i have a light tread and want it so.
i had to have my leathers made, by Jackie Langlitz in portland oregon, she is such a doll, made a full set for me in 3 days.
so size to me is an hindrance, for clothes,shoes, even fitting in cars, i feel like i am wearing them.

remember "the greatest warrior never fights, his battles are all won"

i just figured, since your beloved president threw tantrums, it was something all you patriots did.

the majority of your soldiers are frightened children, we get daily head counts of the ones killed, and they are all so very young.
having shot at, and been shot at, i know how scared they really are.

it is strange for someone who is told what to eat, drink, smoke, wear and say can feel blessed in that, and then to force it on others.
the u.s. has carried the standard of freedom for many years, it has become a mantle of ignorance and lies, either clean it up or pass it on.

i am just a voice in a growing choir, more everyday are seeing the yanks for what they really are.
tell me patriot, what in the world is the difference between,

"let me see some ID"
and
"show us your papers"

[Torog]

well Turog,
you have been around a while, so i will take the time for this, however, i am still am not convinced that you are not a government spook, hard to believe anyone could pretend this much ignorance.

first off, to me you have little feet, i have not worn size twelve since i was 11 or so, all my footwear now is made, mostly moccasins, for my size i have a light tread and want it so.
i had to have my leathers made, by Jackie Langlitz in portland oregon, she is such a doll, made a full set for me in 3 days.
so size to me is an hindrance, for clothes,shoes, even fitting in cars, i feel like i am wearing them.

remember "the greatest warrior never fights, his battles are all won"

i just figured, since your beloved president threw tantrums, it was something all you patriots did.

the majority of your soldiers are frightened children, we get daily head counts of the ones killed, and they are all so very young.
having shot at, and been shot at, i know how scared they really are.

it is strange for someone who is told what to eat, drink, smoke, wear and say can feel blessed in that, and then to force it on others.
the u.s. has carried the standard of freedom for many years, it has become a mantle of ignorance and lies, either clean it up or pass it on.

i am just a voice in a growing choir, more everyday are seeing the yanks for what they really are.
tell me patriot, what in the world is the difference between,

"let me see some ID"
and
"show us your papers"

Howdy hempity,

Thanx for taking the time to respond to me.

Well it sounds like ya must be a pretty big feller,if ya ain't worn size 12 shoes since you were 11 years old..and cars are too small for ya. Us patriots know that throwing a tantrum doesn't do much good,we prefer quiet,determined resolve..to git-r-done.

Every soldier,no matter their age,experiences fear at some point-it's only natural..but I'd say that for the most part,even our young soldiers are very brave and simply desire freedom for others,not just for themselves.

There ain't no one telling me what to eat or wear,I make all of them choices by myself..that society has crafted laws and regulations,that urge us what to do,and sometimes punish us for our choices,does not mean that I conform to them..or believe in them.

As for the difference between id's and papers, 'papers',usually implies that there are military check-points that stop folks and ask for their proof of citizenship,by passport or birth certificate. If I'm stopped by the cops,they don't ask me for my passport or birth certificate,they just want to know if I'm legally able to drive and operate the class of motor vehicle,that I'm in.

As for the rest of the world,my eyes have been opened to them,I never imagined just how many folks actually believe that terrorists can be appeased and that they will simply go away-if we would just give em what they want and try not to upset their feelings. Yup..I'm seeing the rest of the world,that doesn't believe in fighting for freedom,for the cowards that they really are.

Have a good one ...

[hempity]

Howdy hempity,

Thanx for taking the time to respond to me.

Well it sounds like ya must be a pretty big feller,if ya ain't worn size 12 shoes since you were 11 years old..and cars are too small for ya. Us patriots know that throwing a tantrum doesn't do much good,we prefer quiet,determined resolve..to git-r-done.

Every soldier,no matter their age,experiences fear at some point-it's only natural..but I'd say that for the most part,even our young soldiers are very brave and simply desire freedom for others,not just for themselves.

There ain't no one telling me what to eat or wear,I make all of them choices by myself..that society has crafted laws and regulations,that urge us what to do,and sometimes punish us for our choices,does not mean that I conform to them..or believe in them.

As for the difference between id's and papers, 'papers',usually implies that there are military check-points that stop folks and ask for their proof of citizenship,by passport or birth certificate. If I'm stopped by the cops,they don't ask me for my passport or birth certificate,they just want to know if I'm legally able to drive and operate the class of motor vehicle,that I'm in.

As for the rest of the world,my eyes have been opened to them,I never imagined just how many folks actually believe that terrorists can be appeased and that they will simply go away-if we would just give em what they want and try not to upset their feelings. Yup..I'm seeing the rest of the world,that doesn't believe in fighting for freedom,for the cowards that they really are.

Have a good one ...

you are welcome Turog,

i must admit, if nothing else, you have mellowed somewhat.

yes i am a large man, no fault of my own, and it is funny to see little children respond with "mommy mommy look at that man", sometimes, it is not funny to see the fear that it can generate, so i allow others to dress me now, i have never shaved or cut my hair, my family did not believe in it, so i am non threatening these days.
it was not always so.

i learned that the reason people fought, was because they were afraid, that scared me, i used to fight alot.
i am not saying that the soldiers are not brave, only that their lives are wasted on oil, because that is what this is about.
no matter how much you rail and whine, this war is about the price and availability of fossil fuel.
you yanks are killing babies for oil.


freedom, liberty is given by God, man can only take it away.

listen
i learned to ride a bike when i was very young, i learned to count on all of my senses, they taught me to stay alive, i trained my hearing, sight, eye and neck movement, to keep me alive and up on two wheels. helmets take that away, yet to ride without police up our asses, we must wear helmets, because some bitch wants to protect her baby. when in reality it only hinders them and gives them a sense of false safety


she is not the expert, i am..

yet i and all others must bow to her ignorance, if we want to ride.

even if you do not wish to acknowledge it, the FDA, tells you what to eat, the DOT tells you what to wear, the DEA tells you what to smoke, the ATF tells you what to drink, and now the DHS tells you what to say.


there is no difference between "let me see some ID" and "papers please", it is the same crap, someone decided that you all should be identified, because a very few of you were criminals or subversives.

terrorist is a word made up by your government to scare you, and to convince you, theirs was the only freedom available.
a man willing to die for his beliefs is not a terrorist, he is a poor passionate man, Christ was a poor passionate man, so i guess to your government, Christ was a terrorist.

you cannot fight for freedom, it is a gift, from the Creator
neither can you fight for peace, it is a gift, from his Son

peace be upon you all

mitaoyate,
hempity

[GHoSToKeR]

Surely, Torog, an advocate of Free Speech and Freedom and Liberty and Democracy and whatnot such as yourself wouldn't want your government to actually supress these photos?

[nicholasstanko]

you are welcome Turog,

i must admit, if nothing else, you have mellowed somewhat.

yes i am a large man, no fault of my own, and it is funny to see little children respond with "mommy mommy look at that man", sometimes, it is not funny to see the fear that it can generate, so i allow others to dress me now, i have never shaved or cut my hair, my family did not believe in it, so i am non threatening these days.
it was not always so.

i learned that the reason people fought, was because they were afraid, that scared me, i used to fight alot.
i am not saying that the soldiers are not brave, only that their lives are wasted on oil, because that is what this is about.
no matter how much you rail and whine, this war is about the price and availability of fossil fuel.
you yanks are killing babies for oil.


freedom, liberty is given by God, man can only take it away.

listen
i learned to ride a bike when i was very young, i learned to count on all of my senses, they taught me to stay alive, i trained my hearing, sight, eye and neck movement, to keep me alive and up on two wheels. helmets take that away, yet to ride without police up our asses, we must wear helmets, because some bitch wants to protect her baby. when in reality it only hinders them and gives them a sense of false safety


she is not the expert, i am..

yet i and all others must bow to her ignorance, if we want to ride.

even if you do not wish to acknowledge it, the FDA, tells you what to eat, the DOT tells you what to wear, the DEA tells you what to smoke, the ATF tells you what to drink, and now the DHS tells you what to say.


there is no difference between "let me see some ID" and "papers please", it is the same crap, someone decided that you all should be identified, because a very few of you were criminals or subversives.

terrorist is a word made up by your government to scare you, and to convince you, theirs was the only freedom available.
a man willing to die for his beliefs is not a terrorist, he is a poor passionate man, Christ was a poor passionate man, so i guess to your government, Christ was a terrorist.

you cannot fight for freedom, it is a gift, from the Creator
neither can you fight for peace, it is a gift, from his Son

peace be upon you all

mitaoyate,
hempity

damn hempity...


damn.